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Why aren't family court lawyers win/loss records public information?

Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:16 am
Posted by meauxjeaux2
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:16 am


Edited.

This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 9:58 am
Posted by GuyonaBuffalo
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:19 am to
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Posted by Mister Bengal
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:20 am to
because in most cases it is irrelevant.
Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:21 am to
Why aren't your workplace evaluations public?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:21 am to
if you're talking litigation, something like 95% of all cases settle

those settlements often have confidentiality portions so it's not public information
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:21 am to
attorney client privilege for one.

Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:23 am to
Not to mention that clients can easily lie about the facts of a case. A case that looks like it can be won can quickly turn into a disaster due to no fault of the attorney.
Posted by CadesCove
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:23 am to
First, you'd have to decide what constitutes a win or loss. Then, you'd have to violate every ethical standard in the book.
Posted by AUveritas
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:24 am to
quote:

if you're talking litigation, something like 95% of all cases settle


This. In the vast majority of cases, there are no winners or losers.
Posted by lsurulz1515
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Why aren't your workplace evaluations public?

Mine are...
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:24 am to
quote:

if you're talking litigation, something like 95% of all cases settle

those settlements often have confidentiality portions so it's not public information
this makes sense but i overheard a lawyer at the Bulldog the other night boasting about his win/loss percentage and was online to fact check his claims but there is nowhere to actually see what he claimed.
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:24 am to
quote:

First, you'd have to decide what constitutes a win or loss. Then, you'd have to violate every ethical standard in the book.


Posted by Roscoe
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:26 am to
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First, you'd have to decide what constitutes a win or loss. Then, you'd have to violate every ethical standard in the book.


Well, aren't trial verdicts public records? That being said, you are correct - deciding what a win or loss isn't as simple as it sounds. Just because a jury might award damages in a case doesn't mean that the defendant might not consider it a "win" if the jury awarded substantially less than what the Plaintiff was seeking.
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:27 am to
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VOLhalla


Based on your quick replies and the content of your comments, I'd assume you record is pretty poor.
Posted by bbrownso
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:28 am to
Well it would be a poor predictor of success. Most cases are won or lost based on the circumstances of the cases that are taken by the lawyer.

Secondly, if you want to do the leg work, you probably can compile the win/loss records of judgments that aren't sealed or settled. It's just not worth the time.

Finally, winning can be a subjective thing in the legal world. Does getting an injunction prior to losing the rest of the case count as a win itself or is it part of a single loss or both? If a client is suing for $50,000 and only gets $35,000 is that a win or a loss?
Posted by VOLhalla
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:28 am to
I've never met a successful attorney that goes to bars and brags about win/loss percentages. Sounds like a douche
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:30 am to
Be careful. I don't want you to get sued by someone in a profession where 98% of them give the rest a bad name.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:30 am to
If you sued me for $10 million for getting your daughter pregnant, and you won a judgement but for only $1, would you congratulate your attorney on the win?
Posted by CadesCove
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:32 am to
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Well, aren't trial verdicts public records?


The attorneys don't go to the center of the courtroom and have the judge raise the "winner's" hand above his head though.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:32 am to
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I've never met a successful attorney that goes to bars and brags about win/loss percentages. Sounds like a douche
i didn't know him. He was talking to my friend. Older fella,works from Pote Allen.

He's a family court lawyer FWIW
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