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Joey Votto would rather retire than play awful

Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:04 am
Posted by RyanL
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:04 am
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Still has $199 million guaranteed left over next 8 years
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41869 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 12:06 am to
Yeah OK I'll believe that when I see him actually step away.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:11 am to
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I'll believe that when I see him actually step away.
+1

We're not talking about a couple million here.
Posted by EastNastySwag
Member since Dec 2014
5978 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:32 am to
He can hang with Adam LaRoche and his boy. Fun times.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15812 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:50 am to
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Still has $199 million guaranteed left over next 8 years


Wait, what?

I don't follow MLB or it's contracts. Is this normal there?
Posted by RadThibodeaux
Houston, TX
Member since May 2015
723 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:53 am to
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, what? I don't follow MLB or it's contracts. Is this normal there?


For high end players, yeah... It's pretty run of the mill for decent bat guys to get overpaid to come close to or once they hit free agency
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
15812 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:56 am to
I know big contracts have been the norm for some time, but 200MM in guaranteed money? Damn.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:59 am to
They're all guaranteed.
Posted by bayoucracka
Member since Sep 2015
6898 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 7:59 am to
His last contract was $38 mil, so he's eating good. Would you rather be rich and content, or stupid rich and miserable?

Not saying I agree 100%, but I can see where he's coming from.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:04 am to
I would rather suck it up for 8 years and be stupid rich.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69443 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:06 am to
All hitters go through slumps. He is talking like a loser.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:08 am to
40M is rich.

200M is your great grandkids being rich.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:22 am to
MLB contracts are just stupid as could be. I dont know why anyone would guarantee anyone anything for 10+ years like votto and stanton. It gives the player no incentive to continually work harder. It makes sense only bc contracts always goes up, which is just stupid in itself. Votto is 32 years old, who on earth thinks he's going to be an MVP caliber hitter from say 35-40 years old. Very few guys are still good at 35+. Even pujols as great as he was has been trash for a while now, sure he can hit bombs still, but he's no longer a .330 hitter with bombs like he was early.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:22 am to
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All hitters go through slumps. He is talking like a loser.


Yeah, he hit .314/.459/.541 and finished top 3 in MVP voting last year. I don't know why he's talking retirement after one bad month.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112616 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:24 am to
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I don't know why he's talking retirement
I don't really think he's actually talking retirement, he's just saying this is unacceptable and he'd rather quit then play like this every season.

I think we're just reading into it too much.
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
Member since Nov 2011
22146 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:32 am to
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MLB contracts are just stupid as could be

The very long term deals for high end free agents can be very silly. Nobody pays for past performance quite like MLB.
Posted by NC17
Member since Feb 2010
2782 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 8:43 am to
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They're all guaranteed.


I think that they should get half pay when they're on the disabled list. Union wouldn't agree. But it gives teams relief. Really help out on injury prone players with bad contracts.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21640 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 9:09 am to
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MLB contracts are just stupid as could be. I dont know why anyone would guarantee anyone anything for 10+ years like votto and stanton. It gives the player no incentive to continually work harder. It makes sense only bc contracts always goes up, which is just stupid in itself. Votto is 32 years old, who on earth thinks he's going to be an MVP caliber hitter from say 35-40 years old. Very few guys are still good at 35+. Even pujols as great as he was has been trash for a while now, sure he can hit bombs still, but he's no longer a .330 hitter with bombs like he was early.


I agree to an extent. A young guy like Harper, trout, machado, arenado, Stanton I don't mind giving them contracts because you will be getting incredible prime years from them. But guys who hit FA at 30-31 like pujols, miggy, and others I wouldn't touch. Let them walk. You're paying them 8-9 years for only 2 good years of production before they fall off a cliff.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21640 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 9:12 am to
I kinda like how the Pirates and Marlins did with marte, polanco, and yelich. Lock them up for some prime years for far less than market value if they were to hit FA. Sure they're taking some risk in signing ten early before they have more than 1 good season, but it's less risk than taking on the big contracts of proven guys who are older
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 5/2/16 at 10:07 am to
Votto seems like a dude that is very hard on himself and has some anger issues. I think he's had some mental issues in the past as well.

I've always liked him and I'm happy that he passed on his best traits to his best impersonator, Anthony Rizzo.
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