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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:36 pm to
Posted by puffulufogous
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/13/20 at 9:36 pm to
For the blood.orange hefe I did recently, I segmented and frozen the flesh and then fed the segments carefully into a sanitized mesh bag that I had slid into the carboy neck. Yes it was a pain to get the orange out at the end. I had to cut the bag and shake the carboy to get the segments out. On the other hand I think it did make a difference to not have to deal with orange segments blocking up my siphon.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 4/15/20 at 12:37 pm to
About to brew a batch this weekend and next. Trying to decide what to brew and when. The 2 beers will be another NEIPA and another long aged mixed fermentation sour.

The NEIPA will be like the last one, with whatever hops i have left in the fridge. Pretty sure i have sabro, citra, bru-1, and zappa in the fridge. Maybe some galaxy. And, i will hop like i did last time as i've found that method has given me the best results of all of my NEIPA's. All dry hops are dumped in the biotransformation addition. This eliminates any potential oxygen pickup from dry hopping later. The continual fermentation also pushes out any O2 within the hops further eliminating oxygen pickup. The rest of the "dry hopping" will be in the keg. The filter screens worked beautifully last time. The hop aromas and flavors lasted the entire length of the keg, last time, which the keg lasted about 1 1/2 months.


The mixed ferm will be 6 gallons of a belgian golden ale base, with maybe a little bit of caramel malt to produce a bit of an amber color and add some maltiness. I'll primary with a sach belgian or saison strain or maybe a hefe strain, then rack to 2 - 3 gallon fermenters. 2 gallons will be blended with 1 gallon of my first mixed ferm sour i've had in a demijohn, along with The Yeast Bay Brett Brux 184 and will age. The other 2 gallons will be blended with a 1 gallon demijohn of generation 4 of wicked weed dregs. The remaining 2 gallons from the fermenter will refill the demijohns to maintain the cultures inside.

Considering doing the mixed ferm first so i have time to get a shipment of new hops coming in.

Also need to krausen my pilsner in hopes of saving it. It's still got a bit of diacetyl in it, and hoping krausening does the trick.
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
809 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 10:09 am to
Brewing my first Munich Helles this weekend. So far I haven't had much with light beers. First they came out cidery - figured it was my crappy tap water that I couldn't get a low enough pH on. The latest came out a bit to tangy from the acid i had to add. going to try distilled water this time. have to use 2mils of acid for the 3 gallon batch.

recipe:
80% - Pilsen
16% - Light Munich
4% - Wheat Malt

18 IBU - Tettnang @ 30 min

Hoping for a smooth drinker for the summer.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Brewing my first Munich Helles this weekend


I had a Helles from All Relation over the weekend. It was really good. Nice "clean" flavor, but with more of a malt impact than a pilsner or traditional light lager.

Speaking of pilsner, i'm strongly considering adding Brett to the keg to clean up the diacetyl, and let it sit for a couple weeks. Had the idea to try a brett pilsner a while back, and since i have a butterbomb going on right now with my straight pilsner, and not 100% convinced krausening with another lager strain would work with an already kegged and carbonated pilsner...i may add some brett and some hops and let it sit for 2-3 weeks and see what happens. Worst case scenario is i have to dump it.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10483 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 11:10 am to
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The rest of the "dry hopping" will be in the keg. The filter screens worked beautifully last time. The hop aromas and flavors lasted the entire length of the keg, last time, which the keg lasted about 1 1/2 months.



Did you notice any negatives to adding to the keg? Any sort of off flavors towards the end? If not, I think I might start doing that as well.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 12:56 pm to
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Did you notice any negatives to adding to the keg? Any sort of off flavors towards the end? If not, I think I might start doing that as well.


None at all. I didn't realize i was on my last pour until the keg started sputtering. I highly recommend the filter tubes, though. I utilize 2 for my NEIPA's. One in the fermenter when doing the O2 free transfer. The other in the keg, that the dip tube sits in. You can cut the mesh tubes with some good scissors to fit whatever container you're placing them in.

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Below is how i position in my carboy, but i've cut off about 4" from the top so it fits inside the carboy, so i can place my carboy cap on top and slide the sterile siphon starter in. This is also helpful with my sour fruited beers when wanting to package.



And below is how i utilize my other filter in the keg. Works perfectly.

This post was edited on 4/16/20 at 12:59 pm
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27153 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:46 pm to
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brett pilsner


I'm about 9 months into mine. Coming along nicely. Super funk.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

I'm about 9 months into mine. Coming along nicely. Super funk.



This would be more of a short turnaround for mine, to try and clear up some of the diacetyl. I dunno, still throwing around ideas.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27153 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:14 pm to
My opinion of brett is to make intentional. If it only gets a few weeks to work, then to me it would just taste like contaminated beer, imho.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 4/16/20 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

My opinion of brett is to make intentional. If it only gets a few weeks to work, then to me it would just taste like contaminated beer, imho.




But i'd rather brett than diacetyl. I guess i'm wondering if a couple weeks is enough time for brett to work on an already stabilized FG of 1.012. I'm guessing it's not, and i'll probably end up krausening with a clean lager strain (probably saflager) and seeing what happens. And dump if it doesn't clear up.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 8:35 am to
Got my brew ingredients yesterday. Doing an NEIPA tomorrow and utilizing the remainder of the hops in the freezer, and keg hopping with some store bought cryo citra, cryo-cascade, and an additional 1 oz of citra. First time using cryo, but from what i've read, 1 oz of cryo hops is equivalent to a 2 oz. doseage.

Hops in this beer from the freezer will be Citra, Sabro, Galaxy, Bru-1, and Zappa.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26021 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 6:36 pm to
Got a sour in the Kettle right now that's going to sit overnight. It's got 2 row and Flaked wheat. I'm trying to figure out what I want to fruit it with? Peaches were nice last time but I'm looking to change it up. Since I'm going to boil it tomorrow, I can add some zests to the boil, or I can add fruit while it ferments or I can add fruit after fermentation or I can do all of it. Any suggestions?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 7:24 pm to
Mango
Coconut/pineapple
Cucumber
Blueberry
Blackberry
Plums
Papaya

Actually found a recipe to make coconut cream that I may alter to add into a pina colada gose.

LINK
quote:


Ingredients
400 ml Coconut Milk (full-fat)
375 g Sugar (roughly 1¾ cups)
12 g Coconut Powder (1 Tbsp) (optional)
½ g Salt (? teaspoon


Maybe eliminate the salt, and lower the sugar. I’ve had issues with maintaining coconut flavors in beer from shredded coconut, so maybe this would work.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 7:27 pm
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
26021 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Maybe eliminate the salt, and lower the sugar. I’ve had issues with maintaining coconut flavors in beer from shredded coconut, so maybe this would work.


I put shredded coconut in the serving keg and after about a week or two I have to pull it because it gets too strong. I’ve never thrown it in prior to fermenting.
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
809 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 9:49 am to
any of you use the RO systems at winn dixie (etc)? i usually buy gallons of distilled, but curious if i could assume the RO are a decently neutral starting point.
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10483 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:53 am to
Brewing today as well. Going with an El Dorado SHAPA trying to get rid of some older hops. I've now got:

Serving Kegs:
- Centennial Blonde leftover from a party
- Sabro SHAPA

Fermenting:
- Peach Berliner - added peaches on Thursday, probably keg next weekend.

Brewing:
- El Dorado SHAPA

Future Planned Brews:
- Kolsch
- Pina Colada NEIPA
- Imperial Stout to be bulk aged
- Oktoberfest
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

any of you use the RO systems at winn dixie (etc)? i usually buy gallons of distilled, but curious if i could assume the RO are a decently neutral starting point


I’ve done it twice. Supposed to be very neutral like distilled. However, I noticed no perceivable difference between RO and tap water with the appropriate salts. That being said, BR has excellent water for brewing, IMO.

Also, I did this early on I’m my brewing so I may or notice a difference today as my brewing has improved dramatically.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:25 pm to
I cleaned out the freezer of hops. This thing will have Citra, Galaxy, sabro, bru-1, Zappa, and cascade. I find bru-1 to be very underwhelming, Zappa is very dank, and of course Sabro, Citra, and Galaxy are very fruity. Cryo Citra and cryo cascade will be the keg hops.

About to kill the fire and start whirlpool hopping. Started the mash around 9:15/9:30 this morning.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 12:28 pm
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
809 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

However, I noticed no perceivable difference between RO and tap water with the appropriate salts


I live outside Walker. My water is too hard to do anything with besides darker beers. If i brew anything less than SRM 10 i have to add too much acid which brings a tangy taste. If i don't add acid then I get a harsh taste like dry champagne.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 1:38 pm to
Well, only way to know is to experiment and see if you notice a difference. But to answer your question, yes RaO is very neutral and a bunch of pro brewers use RO exclusively.
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