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Posted on 4/13/16 at 3:57 pm to tiger91
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Barf, Catholic. 250 students is the capacity.
So in other words your kids went a prep school but you're attributing their ACT scores to raw academic talent because in your words they did not open a book?
Could it be possible that your kids are just reaping the benefits of going to a good school? Do you think they would have scored that well if they went to a poor inner city public school?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:02 pm to Barf
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Could it be possible that your kids are just reaping the benefits of going to a good school?
Probably a combination of a good school, good home life and a good community.
No matter how good a school is, if a family is shite and the community they live in is shite then the kid is far more likely to turn out shitty because the majority of reinforcing influence they get is shite.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:03 pm to jac1280
The only math I took first semester was business calc, and that was easy as frick. Tbh, I was drunk most of the time in class. That was the only class out of five I passed that semester.
Nine years and a lot of partying later, I had to take Calc 1, and I had to re-teach myself trig, geometry, and algebra while taking calculus in the summer. shite sucked, but once I got the gist of it, Calc 1 was relatively easy. 2 was the hardest, and 3 was the easiest. Diff eq is the devil's work. If someone has a solid math background coming into college, I'd personally suggest going straight into calculus.
The positives about those classes are that all of the formulas you need coming into the classes are in the front of the book.
I still can't draw anything further than a linear function to save my life
Nine years and a lot of partying later, I had to take Calc 1, and I had to re-teach myself trig, geometry, and algebra while taking calculus in the summer. shite sucked, but once I got the gist of it, Calc 1 was relatively easy. 2 was the hardest, and 3 was the easiest. Diff eq is the devil's work. If someone has a solid math background coming into college, I'd personally suggest going straight into calculus.
The positives about those classes are that all of the formulas you need coming into the classes are in the front of the book.
I still can't draw anything further than a linear function to save my life
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:07 pm to Barf
My younger brother and I were both public schooled K-12 and both scored over 30 with no test prep. We both scored over 25 as high school sophomores in the Rapides Parish school system. No amount of public funding can force a kid to take education seriously. Not that Louisiana doesn't try to spend its way out of the problem.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:10 pm to BOSCEAUX
Why does he have to take Trig at LSU? If he posts a 70 on the Alek test then he should be ok for math 1550.
Taking Trig won't get you into Calc even if you have a 100 avg. The only prerequisite for 1550 (Calc 1) is a 70 on the Alek test.
Taking Trig won't get you into Calc even if you have a 100 avg. The only prerequisite for 1550 (Calc 1) is a 70 on the Alek test.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:10 pm to Barf
Well I wouldn't consider their school a "prep school". I'm actually paying for a lot of NO TEACHING in some subjects which yes, I have issues with.
It's a normal school with a ton of teacher turnover due to payscale issues due to it being a Catholic school. I honestly don't think that they got any better education than the public school alternative here, although I will say it's a small town and no real "inner city" issues. We chose to send them there for the Catholic component.
I honestly just think that it was just how they are brainwise and not from what they learned in school. And by not opening a book, I was referring to no studying for the ACT.
Honestly, I do think so as I think they got their dad's smart genes. (Not saying school had NOTHING to do with it BUT I do think it's more them than the education)
It's a normal school with a ton of teacher turnover due to payscale issues due to it being a Catholic school. I honestly don't think that they got any better education than the public school alternative here, although I will say it's a small town and no real "inner city" issues. We chose to send them there for the Catholic component.
I honestly just think that it was just how they are brainwise and not from what they learned in school. And by not opening a book, I was referring to no studying for the ACT.
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Could it be possible that your kids are just reaping the benefits of going to a good school? Do you think they would have scored that well if they went to a poor inner city public school?
Honestly, I do think so as I think they got their dad's smart genes. (Not saying school had NOTHING to do with it BUT I do think it's more them than the education)
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:11 pm to Bard
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No matter how good a school is, if a family is shite and the community they live in is shite then the kid is far more likely to turn out shitty because the majority of reinforcing influence they get is shite.
I can agree with this.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:13 pm to Hammertime
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once I got the gist of it, Calc 1 was relatively easy. 2 was the hardest, and 3 was the easiest. Diff eq is the devil's work
My son with the engineering degree would likely agree with all of this.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 4:37 pm to geauxengineering
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Why does he have to take Trig at LSU? If he posts a 70 on the Alek test then he should be ok for math 1550.
His math background is weak compared to the rest of his course work. He needs to get his feet wet with trig before jumping into Calc which he has zero experience with.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:01 pm to foj1981
But has the back of the LGBT so it's all good. BTW, West Point.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:10 pm to BOSCEAUX
Just remember, math 1023 is no longer a prereq for Math 1550. After he takes Trig, he will need to score a 70 on the Alek test or he won't be allowed to take it.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:26 pm to Team Vote
I have a question about the ACT. Did the ACT revamp itself at some point as far as scoring? The talks about the scores I see in this thread do not make sense compared to the scores back in my day.
In my day, smart kids in college prep made typically 23-25. The upper end of college prep kids would include a few that made 26-28. I only knew of two that broke 30 my entire time in High School. Both ended up doing Ivy League type stuff.
I took it once my Junior year and made a 26 and didn't go back because the 26 fulfilled my scholarship standard for where I was planning to go. 26 was an impressive score back in my day and I blew through college pretty easily.
Anyway, was the scoring changed at some point?
In my day, smart kids in college prep made typically 23-25. The upper end of college prep kids would include a few that made 26-28. I only knew of two that broke 30 my entire time in High School. Both ended up doing Ivy League type stuff.
I took it once my Junior year and made a 26 and didn't go back because the 26 fulfilled my scholarship standard for where I was planning to go. 26 was an impressive score back in my day and I blew through college pretty easily.
Anyway, was the scoring changed at some point?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:34 pm to Scoop
I made a 34 on the ACT
I made a 17 twice
I made a 17 twice
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:34 pm to Scoop
Trig=SOHCAHTOA
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:43 pm to Scoop
Back in the 80's we just showed up & took it. Now kids have ACT tutors and study for it and learn some tricks to help boost the score.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:45 pm to Scoop
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Anyway, was the scoring changed at some point?
per threads on here, the ACT has gotten easier with the scoring.
a 30 now is not nearly as impressive as it was in 2000
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:52 pm to Deactived
Like I said, only 2 kids in my high school years broke 30, one of them ended up being legal council for a Vice President and shows up on Fox News from time to time. It was a big deal to beat 30.
My 26 looks like arse now but I remember it being good enough to not even go back my senior year. My shitiness at math dragged me down as my other scores were high 20s and a 30. I didn't even go back and take it my senior year after I took Trig and Advanced math because a 26 carried the day then and now it's a shite, average score?
My 26 looks like arse now but I remember it being good enough to not even go back my senior year. My shitiness at math dragged me down as my other scores were high 20s and a 30. I didn't even go back and take it my senior year after I took Trig and Advanced math because a 26 carried the day then and now it's a shite, average score?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 5:55 pm to Deactived
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:01 pm to geauxengineering
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Back in the 80's we just showed up & took it. Now kids have ACT tutors and study for it and learn some tricks to help boost the score.
Yeah. I took it in '89. There was no prep or anything. I don't even remember knowing the format. We just drove to the nearest college campus on a Saturday and you sat at a desk and were given a booklet, a pencil and the fill in form. It was a blind test.
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