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Fully loaded 9mm found in Smiths car

Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:57 pm
Posted by CajunsTigersSaints
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:57 pm
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NOPD found 'fully-loaded 9 millimeter handgun inside (Will) Smith’s vehicle' More to come at @NOLAnews
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 4:58 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:59 pm to
Why even report that without saying where it was in the vehicle?
Posted by tzimme4
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:59 pm to
Hayes has told the truth so far but shooting someone in the back doesn't justify self defense.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 4:59 pm to
The question now is, where was it found?

Things get muddier now for sure.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:00 pm to
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Hayes has told the truth so far but shooting someone in the back doesn't justify self defense.




Very true. The unsophisticated will run with this, but its still a long way to go for a self-defense claim.
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:00 pm to
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Why even report that without saying where it was in the vehicle?


so you will click, and tune in, and....
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:01 pm to
A gin being found in Smith's vehicle does nothing for Hayes if it was found in a concealed area.
Posted by Popo2000
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:01 pm to
This isn't saying much. It isn't illegal to have a gun inside your car. Nor does it show Will Smith had intent to use it. Your car is an extension of your home. I'm not saying there isn't more to the story but that doesn't mean jack. They could have found that locked in the console.

All that being said, thanks for the update on the info.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:01 pm to
Well I didn't click thanks to OP
Posted by apfour21
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:01 pm to
Irrelevant unless it was in Will's hands
Posted by CajunsTigersSaints
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:02 pm to
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Police say the gun found inside Will Smith's car was not fired...
Posted by CoeJ
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:02 pm to
He was shot in torso and back. There is no scenario in my opinion that justifies both.

My hypothesis is Will says he'll get his gun... Cardell shoots once in torso. Will retreats to get his gun from his SUV and gets 3 more in the back.

I just don't see how Will is pointing a gun and gets shot 4 times without getting a round off.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:03 pm to
Takes off the theory that Smith shot his wife that some have been trying to push.
Posted by tigerbytail
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:05 pm to
More importantly was that it was fully loaded and hasn't been fired. Slam dunk case for the prosecution. Shooter will spends his days in Angola picking peas
Posted by yurintroubl
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:05 pm to
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NOPD found 'fully-loaded 9 millimeter handgun inside (Will) Smith’s vehicle' More to come at @NOLAnews


Loaded vs Fully-Loaded. Does "fully-loaded" mean "loaded to maximum capacity" - meaning the gun had not been fired? Curios due to the speculation that Mrs. Smith was shot in the leg by her husband's gun.

ETA:

NM - Just saw the clarification.

Hayes had to have been walking forward but at an angle that took him into the oncoming traffic lane in order to shoot Will within the door frame as well as into the passenger seat.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 5:09 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:06 pm to
They said the gun wasn't fired
Posted by yurintroubl
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:09 pm to
Gotcha. Edited. Got ahead of myself.
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:10 pm to
So Will says "I have a gun."

Hayes takes his gun out and opens fire
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:16 pm to
Hayes is a fricking a-hole, but Smith is kind of a dick too for hit & running the guy and then escalating the situation by bringing a weapon into it.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 5:20 pm to
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More importantly was that it was fully loaded and hasn't been fired. Slam dunk case for the prosecution.

There's no slam dunk for anyone at this point.
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