I've never said he'd be more than a scorer.

And the flaw in your PPG argument that your kind of making for me inadvertently is increased efficiency = increased scoring without the cost of possessions.

I want an efficient shooter next to Holiday and Davis that can get his own shot and keep a defense honest by getting to the rim. I don't want a player you HAVE to run sets for to get him open looks like Redick or Korver.

If I thought he'd be a massive liability on defense, Id be more wary. But by most accounts, he's going to be average - above average on that end and has the body to at least be better than the Crawfords and Andersons of the world.

ETA: please show me posts where I or anyone else said he's going to be Curry or Harden. NBAdraft.net has him listed as a Harden comparison. You're putting words in people's mouths that aren't there to frame arguments.

ETA2: you're also using Curry's meteoric and once in a lifetime rise to use him as like LOLCurry, but Hield has traits of college Curry. Remember, multiple PGs went before Curry in that draft. They use him because he can handle the rock and unlike some of the other college long range bombers can actually get his own shot.

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Posted by TigerinATL

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Posted on 3/27/16 at 1:32 pm to ShamelessPel

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I've never said he'd be more than a scorer.

That's kind of implicit in you thinking that a 17-18ppg average is insulting. Maybe we're each getting caught up on irrelevant side points of the others arguments, but if you think he'll be more than an 18 ppg scorer, I take that to mean he'll be in the top 5 percent of scorers which he shouldn't be if he's only a scorer.

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I want an efficient shooter next to Holiday and Davis that can get his own shot and keep a defense honest by getting to the rim. I don't want a player you HAVE to run sets for to get him open looks like Redick or Korver.

I would not be upset if we drafted Hield at 5/6, I just would question if that was the best use of our best asset left to keep AD. TBW posted an article today examining different cap space scenarios, and if AD doesn't make the all NBA team, and you dump everyone that's dumpable (Gordon/Ryno/Tyrke/Ajinca), like a new GM might, then you'd have $35 million in cap space which might be enough to add Bazemore and Barnes which would let Hield slide into his ideal role of 6th man scorer.

Jrue/Frazier
Bazemore/Hield
Barnes/QPon/Babbitt
AD/Cunningham
Asik

LINK

I don't think Demps can pull that off, but I bet Travis Schlenk could. Hield would make the most sense as the pick in that situation as well. If you're adding Bazemore and Barnes and getting QPon back, something like Valentine and Taurean Prince all of a sudden becomes more redundant than Hield so you're not getting the same value out of a 2 for 1 talent addition with the trade back as you'd get taking Hield.

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