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re: Anyone have propane for their home and have an outlet outside?
Posted on 3/21/16 at 4:51 pm to wickowick
Posted on 3/21/16 at 4:51 pm to wickowick
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Normally when you come off the large tank, there is a low pressure regulator to distribute gas to the house (stove, water heater, even grill.) These are all low pressure devices
What wick said, I use an 80lb bottle to boil crawfish the system we have which is primarily for our fireplaces doesn't have enough pressure.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 5:00 pm to swanny297
My in-laws have a propane tank in their yard and paid to have a line ran to their patio so they could hook up their grill. I would think the peace of mind of not having to worry about the dang tiny tank running out at an inopportune time (you know it'll run out when you have 20 people over waiting for you to finish cooking and not on a Tuesday night when it's you and the wife grilling burgers) over paying a few bucks for the fittings....I would definitely pony up for the fittings rather than having to worry about swapping out tanks periodically, plus I'm sure the bulk propane is the cheaper option even after purchasing the fittings in the long run.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 6:06 pm to VanRIch
is there a regulator between your propane tank and your house?...if so, I'd bet pressure at the outlet is too low to use on a crawfish burner...
Posted on 3/21/16 at 6:28 pm to LSUlefty
We have a buried tank. They come top it off every 3 months automatically. It hasn't run out yet. It's a 500 gallon tank but they only fill it something like 80%. I think to allow for gas expansion or something. There is a regulator at the house where it enters but it's as high as it can go without destroying our appliances. This is what the propane guy told me when we had issues with our fireplace producing a tiny flame on full on. So I doubt there any way to increase it enough for a crawfish burner. I'm damn glad I started this thread. I don't have a propane tank and having a boil on Sunday. I might have not properly prepared thinking I could just get some fitting for the outlet and been ready to go. I'll table this little project when I can research everything I need to do. Thanks guys.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 7:02 pm to rodnreel
You only fill up every 3 or 4 years? Mine is 120 gallon and has to be filled about every 3 months
Posted on 3/21/16 at 7:21 pm to VanRIch
We use a natural gas burner to boil at my mom's house. It's slower but in reality we just have to adjust our timing a little bit.
It's really hard to Jack up crawfish.
The natural gas works fine.
If I were you I would just use the propane from your house and just plan it to take a little longer than normal. Maybe start cooking earlier or have someone bring another pot and tank.
It's really hard to Jack up crawfish.
The natural gas works fine.
If I were you I would just use the propane from your house and just plan it to take a little longer than normal. Maybe start cooking earlier or have someone bring another pot and tank.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:28 pm to VanRIch
This is kind of a side topic but I looked at the spot price of propane recently and it was $.43 gallon. I bought some and it cost $1.02 gallon which has a delivery fee figured in. I was talking to a neighbor and he was paying $2.29 gallon. Lot of variation in propane prices.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 10:04 pm to VanRIch
Vapor pressure of propane is something like 125psi at room temperature so you can't make more pressure than that without a compressor. Typically house service has a regulator at the bottle/tank/meter to cut that down to a reasonable level
Natural gas doesn't really have a vapor pressure because it's a mixture of a bunch of shite, but it's regulated down to OUNCES of pressure typically at the meter.
Odds are OP has his house service regulated at the meter to a pretty low pressure. It's easy to check. Just get some fittings and put a 300psi gauge on that stub and see what the line pressure is there. Post results here for better advice.
Natural gas doesn't really have a vapor pressure because it's a mixture of a bunch of shite, but it's regulated down to OUNCES of pressure typically at the meter.
Odds are OP has his house service regulated at the meter to a pretty low pressure. It's easy to check. Just get some fittings and put a 300psi gauge on that stub and see what the line pressure is there. Post results here for better advice.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 11:16 pm to wickowick
I have a high pressure regulator on my tank and a low pressure regulator after the tee going to my cookers. It was pretty easy to hook the gas people installed everything.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 5:15 am to offshoretrash
VanRich do use LaCox for propane? We have the same set up as you, 500 gallon tank in the ground to run house (range, fireplace) which has it's own regulators. Then we have an outlet stubbed out to run a grill, fish cooker, and crawfish boiler. The outlets for the outside stuff have their own regulator which is at a higher flow. I can assure you the outlet in the ground at my house it high flow.
Using a rocket pot and that outlet I can bring cold well water to boil in 7 minutes. If you have this set up, you just buy a hose from the hardware store and have female fittings on both ends to attach to the stubbed out portion and the other end to the grill, etc. If you need to call me you can come out to the house to see how it all works but it's pretty simple and NO WAY do you want to go back to hauling a 5 gallon tank back and forth to be filled.
Using a rocket pot and that outlet I can bring cold well water to boil in 7 minutes. If you have this set up, you just buy a hose from the hardware store and have female fittings on both ends to attach to the stubbed out portion and the other end to the grill, etc. If you need to call me you can come out to the house to see how it all works but it's pretty simple and NO WAY do you want to go back to hauling a 5 gallon tank back and forth to be filled.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 6:39 am to Da Hammer
We do I just don't think they have their own regulators but I'll check today and let you know. Thanks man!
Posted on 3/22/16 at 7:07 am to VanRIch
When my kitchen/shop was built the propane company explained that any lines installed inside a structure can only have about 0.4-0.5 psi. A high pressure 5.0 psi line can be installed for boiling but has to be run outside of the structure.
Using two regulators at the tank my low pressure line goes thru the walls of the shop where the high pressure runs underground then is attached to an outside brick wall.
I use propane only for occasional gas grilling, most of my grilling is on charcoal or wood, and boiling seafood. After 10 months it went from 80% to 60%, so yes I should get several years out of a fill.
Using two regulators at the tank my low pressure line goes thru the walls of the shop where the high pressure runs underground then is attached to an outside brick wall.
I use propane only for occasional gas grilling, most of my grilling is on charcoal or wood, and boiling seafood. After 10 months it went from 80% to 60%, so yes I should get several years out of a fill.
This post was edited on 3/22/16 at 10:01 am
Posted on 3/22/16 at 9:07 am to VanRIch
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My builder put it an outlet on the back patio to hook up to crawfish pots, grills, etc. But I have to go get some fittings to add to it to hook up to a burner. I'm trying to decide if it's worth it or should I just go buy a tank? I don't know why but it seems like it would use a lot of my propane and cost me more in the long run.
you outfitted your home with a propane tank but you're hesistant to use it cause you think it'll use too much propane? Yeah, i don't get your logic at all. show off your propane outlet, not many have that. The only reason i'd say get a tank is if the location where you want to burn isn't really accessible to where propane outlet is on house.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 10:01 am to VanRIch
I would think you would use less propane from the house outlet over a bottle. An outlet from your house measured in ounces, from a bottle in pounds. I would think the low pressure would be fine for a bar be que grill, however if you use it for a crawfish burner you will probably need a banjo burner to get the more heat.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 10:06 am to Chad504boy
Read the whole thread chad.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 10:12 am to VanRIch
You can use that low pressure outlet to boil crawfish with the proper setup.
Look at my burner to the right of the grill. It's a 32 jet low pressure banjo burner. I use it all the time to boil Seafood. It has a 3/4" hose going to it coming from a 3/4" natural gas outlet.
Look at my burner to the right of the grill. It's a 32 jet low pressure banjo burner. I use it all the time to boil Seafood. It has a 3/4" hose going to it coming from a 3/4" natural gas outlet.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 10:13 am to VanRIch
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Read the whole thread chad
how about you give all proper information needed in OP next time. i ain't got time for all that sifting and sorting.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 11:15 am to Chad504boy
Here is the only regulator into the house...
and here is the line coming out on the back patio...
and here is the line coming out on the back patio...
Posted on 3/22/16 at 11:20 am to CHEDBALLZ
Just read up on a low-pressure banjo burner. Says designed for 11" WC which is what my house has according to the last time they came out. Thanks Ched, may have to go look at these at the hardware store.
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