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re: Teacher forced to resign after student steals her phone and shares nude pics

Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47859 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:37 pm to
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sounds like a lucrative endeavor.


Not lucrative but vindication. Garnish that little fricker's Wendy's paycheck for $2000 over 3 years.
Posted by marcnbc
Bossier City, LA
Member since May 2004
4211 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:38 pm to
Keiland would be jelly of of those calves.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Now, I would have a different opinion about all of this if the phone was protected with a password (same for the computer)

Why? I mean kid still stole her phone and went through her phone. A password would not change those facts and if the teacher is like many other a phone can be a valuable classroom tool now. ClassDojo, Edmodo, and several other apps to make the classroom easier to manage and keep in touch with students and parents alive. Also teachers use phones for alarms to indicate end up activities or to look up information on the fly.
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but there is still the argument that she allowed access to internet sites that would usually be blocked by the schools browser.
Then all schools would get in trouble because even though they "block" certain sites you can still get around it. Youtube is not blocked by schools and a lot of things on youtube can get you in trouble since they are not appropriate for a school.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47859 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Did she not have nudes in her phone on school property? Yes or no?

Oh and the kid did not Google nudies in her phone browser. Stick to the facts. Such as her bringing nude digital pics on school property.



I am sticking to the precedent you're setting with your statement. What defines possessing the image? If her picture is on a tumblr account(i may have had experience in this area) and it's accessible worldwide, did she bring porn? The pic may be on a server in California or Indonesia.

You stick to the precedent you goofy poon.


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Then all schools would get in trouble because even though they "block" certain sites you can still get around it. Youtube is not blocked by schools and a lot of things on youtube can get you in trouble since they are not appropriate for a school.

That's why I don't think schools, government facilities, etc want to get into restricting content residing on or accessible via electronic devices.

This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:41 pm to
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So if the kid hacks into her phone and gets around her password, all is forgiven?


I actually think she did what was necessary to make that inaccessible if that were the case and she would have a case. At that point it's gone from negligence on her part, to theft on the part of the student.

And I do think the student needs charges brought up against them for distributing them out no matter if they were easily accessible or not. Although, as a student, once you see that, how do you not hit send. At least to yourself (although woof)

Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:41 pm to
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But she brought something to school with naked pics of her on it.
That's why the firing is just.

As for the sharing of the picture, that's an obvious sex crime unless we're dealing with a badmckward state.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11512 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:42 pm to
Amazing a teacher would lack awareness and leave her phone out.

Phone, purse, drinks... these are things I would not leave unsupervised with students.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:43 pm to
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I am sticking to the precedent you're setting with your statement. What defines possessing the image? If her picture is on a tumblr account(i may have had experience in this area) and it's accessible worldwide, did she bring porn? The pic may be on a server in California or Indonesia.

That's not what happened. Stick to the facts. She had nudies in her images. The facts McFly.

Also I have said from my first post that the student should be expelled.
This post was edited on 3/1/16 at 12:45 pm
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47859 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:44 pm to
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And I do think the student needs charges brought up against them for distributing them out no matter if they were easily accessible or not. Although, as a student, once you see that, how do you not hit send. At least to yourself (although woof)


I checked and SC doesn't appear to have the revenge porn laws yet. But if he sent that pic to anyone under age(La is 17 for that but many states are 18), he should be in big trouble.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135772 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:44 pm to
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I actually think she did what was necessary to make that inaccessible if that were the case and she would have a case. At that point it's gone from negligence on her part, to theft on the part of the student.



So a kid stealing a phone and accessing personal info - teacher is screwed.

A kid stealing a phone, bypassing the password and accessing personal info - teacher is in the clear.

That reasoning is seriously flawed.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47859 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:44 pm to
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That's not what happened. Stick to the facts. She had nudies in her images. The facts McFly


This is why everyone laughs at your debate skills. Carry on, Biff. I'm making like a tree.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
67837 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:49 pm to
wouldn't happen is she was hot
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:50 pm to
See what happens if you let your friends kids come over to your house and they get ahold of a gun or something like that that is just kept on a shelf in your closet. You will get your arse sued if something happened to them and they'd likely win. It sucks because the kid should have never been in your closet (or wherever) and should not have taken that item, but you made it accessible. I bet you'd win the case if you had it locked in a gun safe though.

If that teacher left the phone on her desk, whose to say it's theft to access the phone? Sending the pictures is theft of personal property, but accessing it isn't. That's what she was fired for. Not because the kid took them.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:51 pm to
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No policy, no cause, at least in today's HR world.

She will win a wrongful termination case. She also filed a criminal complaint against the kid, so the sheriff's office has her phone (and nudes) now.



too bad there isn't a blanket stupidity clause to cover shite like this
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135772 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:54 pm to
It's no different from me accessing someone's banking or medical information without their permission. He accessed her personal info without consent.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8671 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 12:56 pm to
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Amazing a teacher would lack awareness and leave her phone out.

Phone, purse, drinks... these are things I would not leave unsupervised with students.


I mean it's easy to say but over the course of a year you are going to leave it when you walk off every once and a while.

Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:00 pm to
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It's no different from me accessing someone's banking or medical information without their permission. He accessed her personal info without consent.


If you left a folder on your desk with your personal bank information, and I opened the folder and looked at it, legally I don't think you can get me in trouble for anything. Now if it was password protected, I'd think differently. I don't know any of this for sure, but that's my train of thought.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
58542 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:01 pm to
Why did the principal ask for her resignation?
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
67837 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:02 pm to
those fricking thighs!!!
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22546 posts
Posted on 3/1/16 at 1:03 pm to
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those fricking thighs!!!
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