- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
While it defies U.S. government, Apple abides by China's orders
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:03 pm
quote:
Apple Inc. has come out swinging in its pitched battle with the government on its home turf.
But when it comes to its second-largest market, China, the Cupertino, Calif., company has been far more accommodating.
Since the iPhone was officially introduced in China seven years ago, Apple has overcome a national security backlash there and has censored apps that wouldn't pass muster with Chinese authorities. It has moved local user data onto servers operated by the state-owned China Telecom and submits to security audits by Chinese authorities.
The approach contrasts with Apple's defiant stance against the FBI, which is heaping pressure on the company to decrypt an iPhone that belonged to San Bernardino shooter Syed Rizwan Farook.
LINK
18
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:05 pm to Darth_Vader
That's because Apple needs those Chinese kids with their tiny Chinese fingers to assemble iPhones.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:10 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
The approach contrasts with Apple's defiant stance against the FBI, which is heaping pressure on the company to decrypt an iPhone that belonged to San Bernardino shooter Syed Rizwan Farook.
How fricking stupid!!
What Apple is being asked to do in the US is establish a precedent that will be abused for years to come.
What Apple is doing in China is just a Tuesday afternoon.
Your business adjust according to the market conditions of a region. So there may be some differences between operating in the US VS a communist country. What a fricking shocking realization!
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:11 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:
submits to security audits by Chinese authorities.
Well what do these security audits entail? That's kind of a big deal.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:18 pm to Darth_Vader
If I have a problem with Apple on this - it is this apparent hypocrisy. They're only for privacy and encryption where that is a right and is allowed.
A truly principled company wouldn't do business in China at all, under such onerous restrictions.
I still support them (reluctantly) in their current stance with the FBI, but I agree the charge of hypocrite is fair, and perhaps worse, they are a tyranny facilitator - not just concurring in, but actively enabling the Chinese government in their surveillance efforts, even if nominally reluctant to do so.
A truly principled company wouldn't do business in China at all, under such onerous restrictions.
I still support them (reluctantly) in their current stance with the FBI, but I agree the charge of hypocrite is fair, and perhaps worse, they are a tyranny facilitator - not just concurring in, but actively enabling the Chinese government in their surveillance efforts, even if nominally reluctant to do so.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:19 pm to Darth_Vader
Apple has already stated that the FBI is asking the company to do something even the Chinese government hasn't asked for.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:20 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
If I have a problem with Apple on this - it is this apparent hypocrisy. They're only for privacy and encryption where that is a right and is allowed.
A truly principled company wouldn't do business in China at all, under such onerous restrictions.
I still support them (reluctantly) in their current stance with the FBI, but I agree the charge of hypocrite is fair, and perhaps worse, they are a tyranny facilitator - not just concurring in, but actively enabling the Chinese government in their surveillance efforts, even if nominally reluctant to do so.
Exactly.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:26 pm to Darth_Vader
And FTR, there is nothing on the locked phone - at least nothing of significance.
They destroyed the phones that had recoverable intel - that's like a huge red flag.
They destroyed the phones that had recoverable intel - that's like a huge red flag.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:33 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
but I agree the charge of hypocrite is fair, and perhaps worse, they are a tyranny facilitator
truth
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:35 pm to Darth_Vader
Censoring apps on phones is not equal to allowing backdoor access to all iphones.
A more apt comparison would be if China wanted access to all iphone users' personal data. Until you find out Apple is doing that, you don't have a point.
A more apt comparison would be if China wanted access to all iphone users' personal data. Until you find out Apple is doing that, you don't have a point.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:38 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
They're only for privacy and encryption where that is a right and is allowed.
Right. So they operate according to the law and rules of that particular market.
quote:
A truly principled company wouldn't do business in China at all, under such onerous restrictions.
Is that Cooks primary responsibility as Apple's CEO? To expand the company only to places that share the principles of...whomever?
Or is it to obtain market share and maximize profit?
and "Principled Corporation" is kind of an oxymoron in itself considering the nature of capitalism.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:38 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
A truly principled company wouldn't do business in China at all
Once a company reaches a certain size it's pretty hard to be principled, especially if those principles interfere with increasing shareholder value.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:42 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:
A truly principled company wouldn't do business in China at all, under such onerous restrictions.
So you also have a problem with Microsoft, Twitter, Facebook, Google, as well as numerous other companies.
They all support Apple's stance against the FBI, yet do business in China.
It's almost as if all businesses exist to make money and attempt do so within the political climate of the countries that their product is sold in.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:44 pm to Darth_Vader
How dare Apple hold the United States to a different standard than China.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:51 pm to whodatdude
quote:
So you also have a problem with Microsoft, Twitter, Facebook, Google, as well as numerous other companies.
Yes.
And Apple's stance is not a principled one. They are trying to protect their product's value.
I support it, regardless of their motivation, because it is the correct one in the grand scheme of things. It is not to protect the terrorists - it is to protect the rest of us.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 3:53 pm to Darth_Vader
So we should be more like China?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 4:01 pm to Darth_Vader
I must have missed where our Constitution dictates what happens in China. Can you point me to that Article?
Posted on 2/26/16 at 4:10 pm to Darth_Vader
So..our government should be more like China's without proper recourse to do business... Nice
This post was edited on 2/26/16 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 2/26/16 at 4:12 pm to MSTiger33
quote:
So we should be more like China?
The likeness grows by the day.
Posted on 2/26/16 at 4:16 pm to Darth_Vader
Have a down vote you sensationalist twat. You are just a sheep.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News