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re: Report: TOPS mostly benefits students from white, affluent families
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:31 am to Oyster
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:31 am to Oyster
Exactly. People act like TOPS is solely about low-income minoritiy students. It isn't. There are plenty of needs based scholarships and programs for those kids. TOPS was a merit based program designed to keep students here in LA where they would get an education and then transition to the state workforce. As usual, politicians have gotten into the program and fricked it all up.
Personally, I view it as nothing more than typical government wealth distribution. They take my taxes and then pay my kids school tuition if the kid makes the grades. If not, someone else's kid gets my taxes. I would rather keep my taxes and decide how I spend the cash.
Personally, I view it as nothing more than typical government wealth distribution. They take my taxes and then pay my kids school tuition if the kid makes the grades. If not, someone else's kid gets my taxes. I would rather keep my taxes and decide how I spend the cash.
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Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:34 am to jbgleason
Exactly.
God bless Pat Taylor, his heart and mind were in the right place.
TOPS is now a boondoggle and is a huge reason why tuition has climbed at state schools.
Unplugging it now will be difficult.
God bless Pat Taylor, his heart and mind were in the right place.
TOPS is now a boondoggle and is a huge reason why tuition has climbed at state schools.
Unplugging it now will be difficult.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:36 am to ksayetiger
this is exactly why raising the standards is a political hot potato. the results will lead to even more skewed demos
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:38 am to patnuh
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Since when is $70k combined income affluent?
in Louisiana, that's affluent
i'd imagine it's in the top 10% of median household income
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:38 am to Deactived
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The article title made it about race. Jeez
Then there's this comment, where the OP went OT.
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Well I guess TOPS IS racist. Good idea to get rid of all racist things to better the state
Don't play naive. The OP commentary was another attempt to get a race thread going and he was successful
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:41 am to LSUTANGERINE
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The OP commentary was another attempt to get a race thread going and he was successful
the article explicitly brings up race
i don't see why you're shocked a discussion on that article brings up race as well
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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i don't see why you're shocked a discussion on that article brings up race as well
Seriously?
Tangerine also said he's never started a thread on race
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:43 am to BigPerm30
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It's just another way to frick the middle class. JBE's base does not want a middle class.
FIFY
Blacks hate TOPS.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:45 am to ksayetiger
Families who make at least 70k? So 35k for each parent? I mean that's not even the LA average is it?
And I'm not sure what the point of the study is considering the requirements are 100% academic. Oh wait yes I do.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:46 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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So 35k for each parent? I mean that's not even the LA average is it?
the median household income is like $40k
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:46 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Then there's this comment, where the OP went OT.
So you acknowledge that the OP didn't bring race into this, like you said
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Don't play naive. The OP commentary was another attempt to get a race thread going and he was successful
I'm not naive.
To be honest, you make these threads more about race and make it into a race argument than any other poster. You're pretty much the type of poster you despise, but I just don't think you know it yet
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:47 am to Deactived
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To be honest, you make these threads more about race
yes
the dominant discussion was about the "affluent" commentary and not race
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:53 am to upgrayedd
They should raise the GPA for TOPS. I was an out of state student but had many friends in TOPS. So many left school without getting a degree. They just went because of TOPS. And where yes it gives some students a degree they may not have considered pursuing before. It felt like it sent more students who dropped out. At least make it a 3.0.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:54 am to upgrayedd
I remember when taking my fresh-sophomore level poli sci classes we'd have 10-12 black kids in most classes, fast forward a year later and it would be 2-3. I'd really be curious what the black graduation rate is at the non HBCU schools like LSU and ULL.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:55 am to LSUJuicer
if you mean the college GPA, if you raise the GPA standard then colleges will adapt with grade inflation to ensure the revenue stream
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:58 am to NIH
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remember when taking my fresh-sophomore level poli sci classes we'd have 10-12 black kids in most classes, fast forward a year later and it would be 2-3. I'd really be curious what the black graduation rate is at the non HBCU schools like LSU and ULL.
LINK
Maybe they were smart enough to change majors
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:58 am to NIH
They all ended up in criminal justice.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:59 am to hendersonshands
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They all ended up in criminal justice
LOL
but true
Posted on 2/14/16 at 10:59 am to ksayetiger
frick that news paper for letting that bullshite headline be published.
63% of the state is white. For Tops to be 75% white is not some great disparity.
Louisiana median household income is 45k.
$70,000 / yr is not "affluent" for anyone with a child.
63% of the state is white. For Tops to be 75% white is not some great disparity.
Louisiana median household income is 45k.
$70,000 / yr is not "affluent" for anyone with a child.
Posted on 2/14/16 at 11:00 am to NIH
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I'd really be curious what the black graduation rate is at the non HBCU schools like LSU and ULL.
This black guy made it out of ULL.
But are you sure those weren't freshman general education classes (that all majors have to take)? You are probably right, but even at HBCUs, the graduation rates still aren't great.
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