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U.S. tells Google computers can qualify as drivers

Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:35 pm
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U.S. vehicle safety regulators have said the artificial intelligence system piloting a self-driving Google car could be considered the driver under federal law, a major step toward ultimately winning approval for autonomous vehicles on the roads.


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is this a big deal? I thought they already were driving
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:37 pm to
This is the beginning of the end. Insurance companies will hike premiums for people who decide to "manually drive" instead of using computer "automated drivers". Eventually everyone will use automated drivers except for the rich elite who we'll all look down on for "recklessly endangering lives by driving manually"
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
91181 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:37 pm to
They're "driving" with a human behind the wheel. Your quote appears to say that computers could drive with no human in the vehicle.

I'd say that's big. And really fricking scary.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52150 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:38 pm to
I don't think fully autonomously.

There was a "driver" in the car at all times that would presumably bear legal definitions of driver.


This ruling means that the computer fits the bill legally.

Aka, you don't legally need to watch the road to possibly "step in" the government will accept the notion that a computer can fully fulfill that role.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:40 pm to
A car piloted by a 286 processor with a 40MB hard drive would be an improvement over 98% of Louisiana drivers.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:41 pm to
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to possibly "step in" the government will accept the notion that a computer can fully fulfill that role


Oh, I never thought humans should be able to "step in". That's what messes things up from the calculated harmony.

360 airbags and sorry about the neighbors dog
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
61475 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:42 pm to
I don't trust a fully automated system. Is an automated cop car gonna pit maneuver me if I am out joy riding. Doubtful. I will just put the pedal down.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
91181 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:43 pm to
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A car piloted by a 286 processor with a 40MB hard drive would be an improvement over 98% of Louisiana drivers.


The only problem, is that computers frick-up as well, they crash, and they can be hacked. In theory, it's a good idea. In practice, the verdict remains to be seen.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
30820 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:44 pm to
Most cops can't drive and very few can PIT.

Too much adrenaline and big stomachs...
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9445 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:44 pm to
I know we talk about it from time to time on the OT and more so in other websites but if you read up on it and pay attention to the advances being made right now, thiings are getting very very interesting in the field of AI
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:47 pm to
It is interesting but it will never fully take over. Some OTers act like it will be mandatory to be in an automated vehichle. I really can't see that.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9445 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:49 pm to
Automated vehicles you mean? I wouldn't say never but it would take 50-75 years or so, really when a entire generation or two grows up with automated cars, if ever. Their entire desire to drive manually will die because they either 1) never had to drive or 2) realized long ago it's just pointless with easier methods with automation.

Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:51 pm to
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The only problem, is that computers frick-up as well


not as much as the other option

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they crash,


so far they've only been crashed into, by a non-computer

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they can be hacked


this is a concern, but I believe that any car with onstar can be hacked right now.

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Hacker Disables More Than 100 Cars Remotely

More than 100 drivers in Austin, Texas found their cars disabled or the horns honking out of control, after an intruder ran amok in a web-based vehicle-immobilization system normally used to get the attention of consumers delinquent in their auto payments.


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so it wouldn't be a new developement
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:51 pm to
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disabled or the horns



So true
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:52 pm to
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The only problem, is that computers frick-up as well, they crash, and they can be hacked. In theory, it's a good idea. In practice, the verdict remains to be seen.


Google's cars haven't caused any crashes yet, and they have driven millions of miles. All of the accidents were caused by a human driver.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 7:53 pm
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:52 pm to
I have a feeling autonomous vehicles will be the end of individually owned cars. A whole lot less parking lots, service stations etc.
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49721 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:52 pm to
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The only problem, is that computers frick-up as well, they crash


Your laptop doesn't have nearly the failsafes that will be required of self-driving cars. Plus all of the software that you install on your PC has a big affect on crashes. I think that I'm a well above average driver (though I figure most people think of themselves that way). I don't text and drive. I use my blinkers all of the time. I always obey the 2 second rule when behind another driver. I still trust computers to drive better than I can. By a wide margin. I can't wait for self driving cars, assuming that the Fedgov allows drunkards to use them. Unfortunately, I suspect that bullshite rules will be implemented to protect police departments that rely on DUIs as well as the cab unions/Ubers of the world.

I do agree that hacks could frick shite up. But all new cars have computers as is, so I don't think that's much of a change.
This post was edited on 2/9/16 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 2/9/16 at 7:56 pm to
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I have a feeling autonomous vehicles will be the end of individually owned cars


what would happen if every car was a computer car, and you had a regular car. You could drive in whatever lane you wanted and all cars will avoid you.

you could cut at any time, run red lights, drive on the wrong side of the road....and they will all pull to the side.

Therefore, all must be computer
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
66002 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:00 pm to
Almost 34k deaths per year caused by traffic accidents.

I welcome computer automation in motor vehicles.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
44935 posts
Posted on 2/9/16 at 8:03 pm to
So ready to have automated cars. Can do
More productive stuff while traveling and can make your car run errands for you or even make
Money as a cab for you while you dont need it. Thats the ticket.
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