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**updated Need advice on how to address ER visit bill

Posted on 1/3/16 at 5:58 pm
Posted by mandevilletiger34
Member since Dec 2010
863 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 5:58 pm
2 weeks ago I had to bring my wife into the er with severe pains in her lower abdomen. ER looked at her and said they had to perform a CT scan to determine if her intestines were ruptured or inflamed. We were in there for about 4 or 5 hours and they determined she had a severe c.diff infection from antibiotics she was taking for a sinus infection.

Our insurance is $250/ER Visit, $7500 deductible for individual

We got the bill from the insurance company today saying that they would only pay $1100 and we are responsible for $11,000 because the tests the ER ran were not necessary.

How are we supposed to know in the middle of an ER visit if we should have rejected the tests because they were not necessary? Shouldn't what the docs order be considered necessary, they are the doctors...

I have no idea what to do next. Do we appeal to insurance???

**update: just got hospital bill. It is not itemized, just says we owe the 11k.

What/where should I go next?
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted by SFVtiger
Member since Oct 2003
4293 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 6:02 pm to
Talk to the billing people at the hospital and let them guide you through the appeal process.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
11713 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 6:16 pm to
No where near your expenses but had carrier deny a prescription, too soon to 're-fill, and got absolutely no resolution....something about their pathways/methods. Told her fine but in the event of an untoward outcome we'll 're-visit their pathways/methods and next time we'll just skip the visit to the doctor and call them direct given they know so much in the first place....welcome to socialized medicine the American way.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36817 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 6:18 pm to
I'm no expert but I'd be calling the billing department at the facility and politely be asking questions. YOU are not who can determine what is medically necessary ... the treating physician is.

What company? And surely $11,000 isn't "allowed and customary charges" even if the ins doesn't think it was medically necessary. Meaning, the hospital and ins company have agreements on charges and what's actually "owed" is less than $11K. Right? At least that's how ours works (BCBS Louisiana)
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17316 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 6:19 pm to
That does not sound right, are you sure you are reading the EOB right? Wait till you get a bill from the hospital.
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
1952 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 7:51 pm to
Wait and see what the hospital ends up writing off. Until then, just because eob says you owe something doesn't mean the hospital won't write it off and not bill for it.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31490 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:37 pm to
My wife went in a little over a year ago for the same thing. Her colon was ruptured so I guess our tests were deemed necessary as she was taken into surgery. I also have BCBS.

Also you need to watch out for some of the doctors that work at hospitals. Just because you are at a BCBS hospital does not mean all of the doctors there are BCBS doctors.

I would wait until you get the bill from the hospital. I had a test recently that the majority of the cost was my responsibility but when I got the bill, the doctor charged me what the insurance company paid.
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79513 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 8:48 pm to
You know, this kind of story kills me. How can the average person be expected to navigate this system with any degree of certainty? How can you make informed decisions if the system is so complicated it makes your head spin? It's just depressing. On the other hand, I'm glad your wife is good.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111305 posts
Posted on 1/13/16 at 9:39 pm to
Request an itemized statement, they have to give you that if you ask for it.

If you call the billing department of the hospital and complain, they'll like adjust it for you.
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