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What has happened to the offensive line?
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:18 pm
Grimes is supposed to be a good OL coach and earlier in the year I would have said our talent was decent as well (Pocic, Hawkins, Alexander, Clapp). After the bye week they have just been terrible.
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Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:20 pm to drexyl
Yes, they have.
Are there injuries which have one or more playing poorly?
Miles could easily be keeping this quiet, if it is the case.
That's purely speculation...
Are there injuries which have one or more playing poorly?
Miles could easily be keeping this quiet, if it is the case.
That's purely speculation...
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:22 pm to nitwit
It would appear that Bama picked up on some problems and illustrated to everyone how to take advantage of them.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:24 pm to drexyl
Pocic looks terrible
I thought Malone looked good
IMO I think Hawkins, Alexander and prob Picic need to take a hard look at how they want to be remembered, right now they are soft and sloppy
I thought Malone looked good
IMO I think Hawkins, Alexander and prob Picic need to take a hard look at how they want to be remembered, right now they are soft and sloppy
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:24 pm to nitwit
I went into the bye week thinking we might have the best OL in the SEC. Nope.
I mean their production just fell off the cliff. LF was averaging 7ypc before contact and Harris had barely been sacked all year. Multiple OL were sec lineman of the week. Now they can't bust a grape out there. LF getting hit in the backfield and Harris running for his life.
Was it losing Dillon Gordon? I know he was important but damn. I just don't get it.
I mean their production just fell off the cliff. LF was averaging 7ypc before contact and Harris had barely been sacked all year. Multiple OL were sec lineman of the week. Now they can't bust a grape out there. LF getting hit in the backfield and Harris running for his life.
Was it losing Dillon Gordon? I know he was important but damn. I just don't get it.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:25 pm to drexyl
Which of these scenarios seems most likely?
1. The offensive linemen decided en masse they didn't like Miles, Grimes, and have quit playing hard.
2. The offensive linemen just weren't that good to begin with.
3. The last 2 opponents were able to predict (i.e., LSU's playcalling was predictable) LSU's playcalls, have "jumped" the plays so to speak, and put more defenders at the right places than the offensive linemen could effectively block.
I submit, #3.
1. The offensive linemen decided en masse they didn't like Miles, Grimes, and have quit playing hard.
2. The offensive linemen just weren't that good to begin with.
3. The last 2 opponents were able to predict (i.e., LSU's playcalling was predictable) LSU's playcalls, have "jumped" the plays so to speak, and put more defenders at the right places than the offensive linemen could effectively block.
I submit, #3.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:27 pm to TigerJeff
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3. The last 2 opponents were able to predict (i.e., LSU's playcalling was predictable) LSU's playcalls, have "jumped" the plays so to speak, and put more defenders at the right places than the offensive linemen could effectively block.
I don't buy it. The plan by every defense has ALWAYS been this.
It just now started working?
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:29 pm to TigerJeff
My vote is that they were vastly overrated
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:31 pm to drexyl
Pocic at Center doesn't make sense to me. He is 6'7 and playing out of position.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:36 pm to lwlsu96
When you're the 6th best rushing team in the country after 7 games.. it's not an anomaly.
LF averaged 7.94 yards per carry over the first 7 games (without any under 5.8).
He's averaged 3.2 per carry the last two. Neither game within 1 yard/carry of his lowest average ALL season!
LF's worst yard/carry average in the first 7 games was 5.8.
Henry surpassed LF's WORST yards/carry/game only TWICE in the first 7 games. Are they overrated?
Something tangible happened.
It has to be Moore and Gordon.. That's the only explanation.
LF averaged 7.94 yards per carry over the first 7 games (without any under 5.8).
He's averaged 3.2 per carry the last two. Neither game within 1 yard/carry of his lowest average ALL season!
LF's worst yard/carry average in the first 7 games was 5.8.
Henry surpassed LF's WORST yards/carry/game only TWICE in the first 7 games. Are they overrated?
Something tangible happened.
It has to be Moore and Gordon.. That's the only explanation.
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:37 pm to TigerFanFromBama
Losing our FB and best TE is not helpful in the total scheme of things...
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:39 pm to drexyl
Maybe one more could be the reason is that some do not want to get injured and hurt their NFL chances.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:41 pm to TigerJeff
Im not sure it's that simple. Go back and watch Alexander on pass plays. he would start moving backwards as soon as the ball was snapped. by the time he engaged the defender he was right next to harris. And since he was moving backward the defender already had an edge when he rushed him. It was like that every play! I've never seen pass blocking like that. Maybe a couple of steps back to cut off an angle but then engage the defender! Same thing was happening with Hawkins. Was Alexander hurt also. Looked like he couldn't put pressure on his right leg.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:42 pm to jelester
quote:that makes zero sense.
Maybe one more could be the reason is that some do not want to get injured and hurt their NFL chances.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:44 pm to pufftiger7
quote:i noticed that too. I'd be interested in comparing the OL at the start of the season to the shite show we've seen the last two weeks.
Go back and watch Alexander on pass plays.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:44 pm to tgerb8
If they were that important to that scheme then you have no choice but to change your scheme.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:45 pm to drexyl
Pocic at OC is unnatural. 63 was over whelmed last night as well in place of Hawkins.
I really think that unit could flourish, but it requires some solid coaching.
I really think that unit could flourish, but it requires some solid coaching.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:45 pm to TigerFanFromBama
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Pocic at Center doesn't make sense to me. He is 6'7 and playing out of position.
He is doing a good job for his size. Everyone knows we don't really have a center and he is playing this position out of need.
Pocic is a fine player but his center of gravity is just too high. Not his fault.
COMPLETELY UNRELATED... Dupree did his job last night.
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:47 pm to drexyl
Started playing better teams
Posted on 11/15/15 at 3:54 pm to pufftiger7
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If they were that important to that scheme then you have no choice but to change your scheme.
I don't disagree in the least, I'm just asking if that is what the consensus theory on the problem is. FB and TE. Would't we at least try the same scheme with different players (if/when the new scheme isn't working? or did we and it failed?).
@tigermoney
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Started playing better teams
This is ridiculous. After 7 games you know your strengths and weaknesses. Bama was/is a great DL, but we should not have been nearly as inneffective (TENN and Georgia were able to run the ball well - MS State wasn't nearly as bad at it as we were).. and Ark isn't a great DL by any means.
The production has nosedived..
This post was edited on 11/15/15 at 3:55 pm
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