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re: Do some lsu fans live in a bubble w/ no perspective of the other college

Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:03 am to
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:03 am to
If Saban were our coach we would never have gotten those penalties!

I love you Saban!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:05 am to
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We're 1000% better than last year

i wasn't making that point, but let's look

Jennings' first 3 games last year:

239 yards (42.9% @ 11.4 ypa), 2 TD, 0 INT, 169.9 Rating
188 yards (53.8% @ 14.5 ypa), 3 TD, 0 INT, 251.5 Rating
139 yards (61.1% @ 7.7 ypa), 0 TD, 1 INT, 114.9 Rating

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Harris's first 3 games this year:

71 yards (64.3% @ 5.1 ypa), O TD, 0 INT, 106.9 Rating
74 yards (70.6% @ 4.4 ypa), 1 TD, 0 INT, 126.6 Rating
157 yards (50.0% @ 9.8 ypa), 1 TD, 0 INT, 153.1 Rating

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Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17077 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:08 am to
I'm critical of every other team that plays sloppy ball.


What does it matter if Im critical of the team I cheer fo?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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425837 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:10 am to
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I'm critical of every other team that plays sloppy ball.

What does it matter if Im critical of the team I cheer fo?

i've been making the same argument on here since 2004 (yes, when Saban was roaming our sidelines)
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93801 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:15 am to
You and I will never see eye to eye on this.

Game reps on something that we can plainly see is better than what we are used to seeing. ...and the reps would be minimal, taking reps away from younger backs not named Fournette. What about them?
Posted by pufftiger7
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2014
8 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:15 am to
Strange, I was expecting us to be sloppy at least during the first half. long trip east, New York, young kids. Just like when teams travel to Hawaii to play. they are almost always sloppy at first. no big deal. They took care of business in the second half. Harris threw some nice passes and LF is LF. Syracuse 5th string QB is best 5th string QB I have ever seen.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:18 am to
DBU might be in trouble if a kid making his first start in major college ball can throw 3 TD pass on us in a half.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93801 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:20 am to
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Jennings' first 3 games last year:

239 yards (42.9% @ 11.4 ypa), 2 TD, 0 INT, 169.9 Rating
188 yards (53.8% @ 14.5 ypa), 3 TD, 0 INT, 251.5 Rating
139 yards (61.1% @ 7.7 ypa), 0 TD, 1 INT, 114.9 Rating

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Harris's first 3 games this year:

71 yards (64.3% @ 5.1 ypa), O TD, 0 INT, 106.9 Rating
74 yards (70.6% @ 4.4 ypa), 1 TD, 0 INT, 126.6 Rating
157 yards (50.0% @ 9.8 ypa), 1 TD, 0 INT, 153.1 Rating


Who started at RB and how good were they each year? Which year was there more of a necessity to throw the ball?
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 10:21 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:21 am to
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Game reps on something that we can plainly see is better than what we are used to seeing. ...and the reps would be minimal, taking reps away from younger backs not named Fournette. What about them?

RBs don't really need reps the same way a passing game does

the running game is simpler (just as stopping it is simpler). that's why teams who win titles have legit passing threats

when was the last time a team won a title without passing for 2500 yards or so? i don't know but i bet you it's been a while
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:22 am to
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Who started at RB and how good were they each year? Which year was there more of a necessity to throw the ball?

does a great running game now negatively affect your efficiency stats? i didn't just post total passing yard
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:26 am to
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but let's look


Stats are stats, but without noting that Jennings played only 1 Power 5 program and Harris has started out playing 3 including 2 from the SEC and 2 on the road in home stadiums...I am hard pressed to find a valid comparison.

Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93801 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:28 am to
Matt Flynn in 2007 had 24

McElroy in 09 had 25.

It's been done. I'm not saying they don't need to throw the ball. All I'm saying is that you're putting emphasis on practicing game reps and Harris has thrown the ball more and more each game.

Was 16 throws yesterday nit efficient? What's a good number? 3 more passes? 4? What's that accomplishing?
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93801 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:29 am to
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does a great running game now negatively affect your efficiency stats? i didn't just post total passing yard


It effects the necessity to run the ball.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:38 am to
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Matt Flynn in 2007 had 24

McElroy in 09 had 25.

huh?

i just ran the stats for teams and i went back to FSU in 99 and one team, OSU in 2002, didn't hit 2500 yards (they were close)

2014: OSU over
2013: FSU over
2012: Bama over
2011: Bama over
2010: Auburn over
2009: Bama over
2008: Florida over
2007: LSU over
2006: Florida over
2005: Texas over
2004: USC over
2003: LSU over
2002: OSU under (by 75 yards)
2001: Miami over
2000: OU over
1999: FSU over

flynn had 2400 but missed 2 games and RP had almost 700 so LSU in 2007 was way over. mcelroy alone threw for over 2500 in 09

also of note, i don't think going further into the 90s will help b/c of the 12-team standard schedule + CG + bowl stats

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Was 16 throws yesterday nit efficient?

he had one bomb and little otherwise

quote:

What's a good number? 3 more passes? 4? What's that accomplishing?

working on timing in the intermediate passing game to gain trust in it so we use it

working on pass protection (which apparently needs a lot of work)

working on the reads for our route tree against defenses

we need to pass until these phases of the passing game are humming in unison. they obviously are not as of yesterday
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:40 am to
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It effects the necessity to run the ball.

we are playing shite teams. we will win without a complete meltdown. we will run on them even with a meltdown

saying "we need to run when we run well" is irrelevant when we can put in our 2nd string and run on them (EMU more than 'Cuse)

does anybody doubt that we can put in jennings and guice/brosette next week and run for 200+??
Posted by Andre
Cashier at Stein's Deli
Member since Apr 2009
4301 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:46 am to
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Gray Tiger


Has anyone told you that your misery over the fans is FAR worse than the fans misery over any perceived issue you may have with others making their opinions known on here?

Your misery and never ending crusade to tell people why they should not be so critical is very sad.
Posted by Andre
Cashier at Stein's Deli
Member since Apr 2009
4301 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:48 am to
That same message applies to you as well , OP.
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 10:49 am
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99659 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:51 am to
Oh look, BeeFense started a thread to bash LSU fans, how shocking.

Next thing you know runningTiger will call someone a Deceptatiger.
Posted by geaux from largo
Largo, Florida
Member since Oct 2006
2683 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:53 am to
Yes, many LSU fans live in a bubble with no perspective of the other college.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:56 am to
let me add this point

if our passing game develops to where we sustain drives, we will have more plays to divide up. the "plays" argument requires a zero-sum analysis of the total plays our offense may be on the field, which is not reflected in reality. our # of plays is not static and an improved mid-range passing game developing to sustain drives means more carries for LF, Guice, Williams, etc
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