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re: Why do you have(traditionally) to give a two weeks notice, but your company can
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:06 pm to iamAG
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:06 pm to iamAG
Maybe I'm naive, and I've never been fired (knock on wood), but I think it's customary for employers to give you 2 weeks pay if you get canned. Unless you truly frick up, like violate the employee conduct guidelines.
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:17 pm to iamAG
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resend and offer
Just an FYI, the correct word is rescind.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:37 pm to iamAG
Unless you are working under contract, neither party is required to give notice or even a reason to end employment...
it is a generally accepted courtesy for an employee to give a couple of weeks notice and for an employer to provide some amount of severance pay...not required of either, though.
it is a generally accepted courtesy for an employee to give a couple of weeks notice and for an employer to provide some amount of severance pay...not required of either, though.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I've seen too many people put in their two weeks notice and we're promptly kicked out the door. When I was in the mortgage business, only a fool would put in two weeks notice as they were never honored.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:00 am to iamAG
The two weeks is for your coworkers and network, not for your employer.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:04 am to iamAG
You're supposed to have your shite lined up before you give notice. You give 2 weeks so you give fair warning to all the people who might be affected by you leaving to hedge against burning bridges. If none of that is in play the company can eat bags of penises
Posted on 9/16/15 at 12:33 am to iamAG
If an employer would give an employee a 2 weeks you're fired notice it would end badly for the company a majority of the time
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:00 am to iamAG
You don't have to give two weeks notice. They don't have that power over you.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 7:26 am to prplhze2000
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I've seen too many people put in their two weeks notice and we're promptly kicked out the door
And what does this have to do with anything? The company has made the decision to not have you around. You have done everything in your power to leave while keeping that relationship intact. In those cases, the company either understands, but must protect itself from having any sensitive information in the hands of someone they know is leaving. Or, there was nothing you could do to leave that company amicably. But you still should try.
I've been around for a few people who have left our company. Some to work for direct competitors. Pretty much everyone would be hired back except for two. Both of those guys quit and walked out of the door. Sad part is they had no reason to. They were starting their own company and could have easily given two weeks notice and no one would have cared. Funny thing is we work for a very large company that could probably use their services from time to time. I know if it is my decision, I'm not using them because of the crappy way they left. If their company fails (and in this current economy, it is always likely), then they can't turn back to us for a job. Just that not giving any notice and leaving all of their fellow employees in a bind left such a bad taste in my mouth that I wouldn't mind if their company went under.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:14 am to iamAG
When you quit, it is presumed that they're, generally, happy with you at the time. Many companies do not want someone with a foot halfway out the door and will dispense with the 2-weeks notice. However, some need coverage or transition efforts from you - perhaps possessing knowledge or relationships that no one else at your company has.
On the other hand, when you're given notice, you're very often offered your next paycheck, at a minimum, as severance (effectively pay for no work) - and that should be all one expects. Plus, you're eligible for unemployment in many cases, which softens the blow of being fired. And, the last thing they want is someone with access to company property, customers and computers who has already been discharged. In all but the most organized and planned layoffs (with a lot of trust in the employees in these cases), this is a nightmare scenario for management.
On the other hand, when you're given notice, you're very often offered your next paycheck, at a minimum, as severance (effectively pay for no work) - and that should be all one expects. Plus, you're eligible for unemployment in many cases, which softens the blow of being fired. And, the last thing they want is someone with access to company property, customers and computers who has already been discharged. In all but the most organized and planned layoffs (with a lot of trust in the employees in these cases), this is a nightmare scenario for management.
This post was edited on 9/16/15 at 8:15 am
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:15 am to Hester Carries
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Because they pay you and you dont pay them.
Who gives a frick. If I leave today they still have to legally pay me for the work I've done prior to leaving that has been unpaid.
Posted on 9/16/15 at 8:43 am to fr33manator
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fr33manator
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Antiquated notion from a different time.
Designed to guilt an employee to give his employer a chance to work against him. Now if an employee wants to keep an amicable relationship with his former employer and give them time to train a replacement, then by all means they should.
But don't cling to some tenacious code of "how things are done" without good reason. It's a dog eat dog world and your employer would not likely give you the same consideration.
Like you as a poster but that's a staggeringly ignorant statement bro.
If you have a good relationship with your employer, leaving them high-and-dry will prevent you from ever leaning on the experience you got there and the accomplishments you achieved there other than writing about them on your resume or talking about them in an interview.
NEVER underestimate the power of a recommendation letter or a phonecall for a reference. They can make or absolutely break you when looking for new opportunities.
Now, if you are in almost any type of professional position that's sales-based or commission-related, there's no such thing as a two-week notice. Most employers aren't going to let you sit around sucking up clients and leads and telling your existing book-that you very well may have built up using the employer's resources and marketing $-that you're leaving, etc.
Most of those are, "I'm leaving, today's my last day." If you're in a Supervisory position in commissioned sales, that advice doesn't apply as you need to hand off things like pipeline management, a high-level overview of your team, and potentially give a recommendation for the type of replacement for a group that you may have been responsible in large measure for bringing on.
But at the end of the day, many employers do let folks know layoffs are coming. But some don't. Conversely, many folks let their employers know their departure is coming. Some don't.
There is no requirement-on either end of the employer/employee relationship-to do so. It's just called professional etiquette, foresight, and proper planning.
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