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Posted on 4/5/16 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 5:51 pm to
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Through balls do it too and it sucks.

mostly it is through balls with me

sometimes i'll have like 1 bar and the computer sends a 200 mph through ball
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 5:52 pm to
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at this day in age how are people still allowed to play a one on one match with such shitty Internet? I just had a match where it was off by just enough that I literally couldn't get a pass off yet he's ping ponging the ball all over the place. and of course he's in division 2 with a record of like 50-10-10. I call bullshite that the player with the bad connection isn't at some kind of advantage because they always have a winning record

i always assumed this was some sort of hack

sometimes on the old ones i'd be winning and then out of nowhere internet would get shitty and i'd be all lagged and they cut through me like butter
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 6:07 pm to
I haven't had consistency issues on 16 but on 15 I'd be in a match with a good connection for like minutes, and when someone would score, it'd go to complete shite for the rest of the game. if I'm really paying attention I can see the judder in the pre game sequences and just quit FIFA from the Xbox menu but it just infuriates me. more then getting skunked 5-0 I don't understand how it's enjoyable for the other player although I assume they've never known any different.


I've noticed it more with American players now(or at least it says they're American, not sure what determines that) but because I'm in DFW, unless I turn the local matchmaking option off, over 50% of my games are against Mexicans

and Rise, I don't even take the latency bars word for it. unless it's after midnight, I check the other guys profile and if anything on it comes off as Hispanic I back out. which is a shame because there's plenty of Mexican players with good internet. I'm just too gun shy to even try anymore
This post was edited on 4/5/16 at 6:09 pm
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 4/5/16 at 11:41 pm to
My friend who plays a lot of super smash brothers online has the same reservations about Mexican players
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:12 pm to
has anyone had the infamous leaderboard issue? when I switched platforms all my Seasons stats disappeared. the only ones being catalogued now are the top 100 stats, and only the weekly and monthly. which is fine because frankly I'm never gonna sniff even the top 1000 I just like to compare to see how I'm improving or lack thereof
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 2:38 pm to
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unless I turn the local matchmaking option off, over 50% of my games are against Mexicans


Same here. After midnight, I make crazy runs in terms of wins. Otherwise, it's just plain non-sense. My players just seem to play awful, and the crossbar becomes my best friend.

I'm making a push in Seasons right now, and I'm up to Div 4 with Div 3 almost guaranteed. I've almost completely stopped sprinting just as I had in FIFA 14.

Sprint is bad for you, and FIFA wants to save you from yourself by making it completely ruin your gameplay.
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 3:54 pm to
that's right where I'm at. 2 seasons in division 3, 2 relegations. but I'm getting close, that's for sure. much more encouraging than my play on 15'
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:14 pm to
Another thing I've noticed is that if you refuse to change your tactics, you'll lose a great deal of your matches. If you see someone pinging the ball around recklessly and don't swap to high pressure, you'll be picked apart. If you don't sit back and counter someone playing high-pressure and high up the pitch, you'll be counter-attacked to death.

The best skill to have in the game (which really applies to any year) is to be able to recognize opponent tactics and shift yours to counter them. That's what separates the good players from the FIWC winners. A simple tactical shift and a change in formation is what won the Xbox FIWC final match.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:52 pm to
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A simple tactical shift and a change in formation is what won the Xbox FIWC final match.

the one where the guy had no time left and went 4-2-4 and got a miracle goal in extra time?
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 6:37 pm to
ain't that the truth. I played a Mexican kid the other night who started the game in a high pressure 4-2-4. first dead ball I I changed my formation to a flat 5-4-1, defensive counter attack with Fabian Castillo and Barrios on the wings, and beat him 5-0. he then had the audacity to message me bitching about "parking the bus". I just lol'd
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 8:12 pm to
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the one where the guy had no time left and went 4-2-4 and got a miracle goal in extra time?


I believe he was down by two. He did get the final goal in ET, but he was down 3-1 really late.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 8:50 pm to
i just had one of those FUT games where my defenders moved like they were in quicksand
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:45 pm to
That NEVER happens to me when my team is worse than the other. Just ironic.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:54 pm to
It also happens across the board. After midnight, I see it less and less. Two games into normal Seasons in Div 3 with 1 win and 1 loss, my loss was to River Plate playing with Leicester City. I had 3 wide open net goals taken by hitting the post twice and Drinkwater straight up missing the ball and falling like Charlie Brown. The last slowly rolled towards goal until the keeper grabbed it.

On the flip side, I played Div 5 matches after midnight and mostly matched against BVB, Arsenal, and Tottenham. I had 7 wins straight. From a software engineering standpoint, experiencing the same issues in 3 different locations with everything from 30Mbps to my Gigabit connection at home almost HAS to be by design.

I've read that "morale" plays a role this year behind the scenes, and I do notice that once I get on a run in a division, I tend to keep it going. That said, I think that they do everything in their power to keep you near those with a similar ELO Chess rating. I know for a fact that it's in the game, even though they've stated otherwise, after datamining the PC version in FIFA 14 and FIFA 15.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:11 pm to
the L1 switch is a curious case for me. i've started to somewhat get used to it, but occasionally it goes full retard

i've played this game a LOT over the past 10 years and this game has pure frickery involved in it
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:28 pm to
The right stick has some really, really inconsistent switching. Lots of frickery.

It's like once you start seeing the issues, they never go away. Routing's been considered a possible issue. I do know that LUS Fiber, which I have, routes through the Dallas node that's, for lack of a better word, fricked. This is the same one that one of the network engineers has stated that some packets take up to 6 seconds to make it through and he's certain that a large portion of packets don't even make it. That also seems to support the notion that low traffic periods lead to less of the frickery.

My best theory (after literally thousands of hours of doing and testing everything possible) is that the constant streaming data to the EA servers is either hitting bottlenecks during peak hours in Europe (since you're always connected to a server in Ireland or the UK). Another is that bad routing is leading to a slow build up of packets that are taking longer than they should to reach their destination leading to delays of milliseconds that cause somewhat of "desync" issue leading to an input lag effect. Lastly, it may just be awful lag compensation, but I've seen this same effect happen in almost every EA game along with NBA2K, as well.

I think that morale mixed with whatever is causing the small network issues is making the game unplayable in certain situations. I played a guy who lives in the same city who I've played hundreds of matches with over the years, and I experienced it the other day. Two days before, it played perfectly fine.

I'd really love to play someone else in the US who sees this issue a lot and see how their gameplay is compared to mine. If both players run into it, it's network based. Otherwise, it'd be interesting to see how it goes down. I pulled off a MITM attack during a match to intercept the packets, but I was too afraid to do too much and being banned for some sort of non-sense by Xbox Live or FIFA for packet tampering.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:06 am to
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the L1 switch is a curious case for me. i've started to somewhat get used to it, but occasionally it goes full retard



The only time it acts up for me (fricks me) is when I'm being hit on a counter attack. Trying to switch to the guy in the best position to defend and often times it switches me to the closest guy. Problem is, these are usually two center backs and the runner is in the middle of them. Switching to the wrong guy just parts the Red Sea, because the direction you're needing to go with one guy is the opposite of the other.


I went on a little tear last night in division 4. 7-0-2. Played a guy with a good MLS/USA hybrid in my 2nd division 3 game last night in the rain and he slaughtered me. 5-1. He was just pinging passes right to where they needed to go and my guys all looked like they were on ice. My current team is ridiculous btw and he just picked me apart. I probably have the most OP strike partnership possible, MOTM Aubameyang and 95 Ibrahimovic. Larrson at CAM. I'm just a terrible player in the rain.

Fastest player ever on FIFA and he still gets hawked down by fullbacks. I wish they would figure out how to implement pace. Last year it was too overpowered and this year it is too watered down. A guy with 82 pace should never catch up to and tackle a guy with 99 pace though if he is running in a straight line behind him and doesn't have an angle. Frustrating as hell
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/8/16 at 8:24 am to
L1 is tough on breaks, esp when the play restarts after a goal or half.

when the opposition wins the ball, i always try to use r-pad to get a CB away from the play and pull him back. that's the safest play and how i typically play my contain D. the lines are horrible (and theoretically you can play a winger onsides) but this isn't real soccer

if i'm lucky that causes a non-forward pass or 2 and i can get my CDM and roam free to disrupt lanes/players at the box
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:09 am to
The Lautern first season is going well 7 points clear at the top and its april. I made it to the semi's of the pokal vs Frankfurt so a little derby action is going to be nice. Already loaded up my youth system with a bunch of German and Spanish kids with 85+ potential.

Also thinking about starting another manager mode with a league 2 side. I'm thinking probably Cambridge United bc they are a local team to this area. Then I want to use some of my xp to unlock the financial take over by a billionaire perk. Kick is im not going to use the money to get all the best players on big wages and just run through every division until I get to the prem. I'm going to use the money to invest in the best youth player scouts and just load my academy up and play the kids in league two and league one turning them into beast by the time I make it to the big time.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:21 am to
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I'm going to use the money to invest in the best youth player scouts


I mean they don't cost that much and there's only 3 allowed

You could always buy a few high potential youth guys already in the game and groom them. Idk what's it's like with financial takeover for a small club, but a medium/large club will get you a 130 million budget
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