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re: Slain reporter's parents decide that guns are to blame for the crime
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:55 am to weagle99
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:55 am to weagle99
here is my 2 cents(disclaimer- I own 7 semi auto handguns, mostly CZ's and 1911's. I shoot 3-4 times a month as a sport/hobby. I keep a glock 19 by my bed for home protection. I love guns and i hate that i live in the most restrictive gun state).
Guns are absolutely a huge problem, anyone who doesn't think so is in denial. Guns absolutely make it easier for people to kill others, much easier then knives or other deadly weapons. If guns ceased to exist the world would be a safer, less tragic place. But here is the conundrum; (as someone stated earlier) we have 300 million guns. Guns are embedded in our society, culture and even our bill of rights. They are just a part of who we are. We are way past the point of eradicating guns, its just not possible. Gun laws and restrictions are pointless. Criminals, by definition, ignore laws. The laws just make things more difficult for law abiding and responsible gun owners. Even if guns were completely outlawed, there are still hundreds of millions in circulation that would wind up in the hands of criminals.
We are a country of 250 million people, there will always be crazy people, angry people, and people looking to kill. There is no solution to these tragedies unfortunately.
edit- I have zero problem with a strict and thorough background check and laws regarding sales of guns(i.e. restricting private cash&carry transactions). The laws that are pointless are the ones that restrict magazine capacity, the "safe handgun roster" of california, etc.
Guns are absolutely a huge problem, anyone who doesn't think so is in denial. Guns absolutely make it easier for people to kill others, much easier then knives or other deadly weapons. If guns ceased to exist the world would be a safer, less tragic place. But here is the conundrum; (as someone stated earlier) we have 300 million guns. Guns are embedded in our society, culture and even our bill of rights. They are just a part of who we are. We are way past the point of eradicating guns, its just not possible. Gun laws and restrictions are pointless. Criminals, by definition, ignore laws. The laws just make things more difficult for law abiding and responsible gun owners. Even if guns were completely outlawed, there are still hundreds of millions in circulation that would wind up in the hands of criminals.
We are a country of 250 million people, there will always be crazy people, angry people, and people looking to kill. There is no solution to these tragedies unfortunately.
edit- I have zero problem with a strict and thorough background check and laws regarding sales of guns(i.e. restricting private cash&carry transactions). The laws that are pointless are the ones that restrict magazine capacity, the "safe handgun roster" of california, etc.
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 9:03 am
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Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:57 am to 632627
How do background checks look for mental illness?
If someone saw a therapist because of his/her anorexia (mental illness) would they be prevented from buying a gun?
If someone saw a therapist because of his/her anorexia (mental illness) would they be prevented from buying a gun?
This post was edited on 8/31/15 at 9:00 am
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:10 am to 632627
Guns were made for killing people. Period. Anybody that says otherwise is an idiot. They market rifles for hunting but the military uses them for sniping people. Shotguns weren't invented to kill birds, they were used as a close quarters combat gun.
Unless every gun is destroyed as well as the plants and manufacturers, then criminals will own a firearm. Its shooting fish in a barrel.
With that said, Im keeping my guns, and Im buying more. I can reload my own ammo also.
People want the Govt. to give some kind of mentally ill test to check if we are qualified to purchase or own a gun. I have a problem with that. How many people in this country are on medication? Now what are the side effects of that medicine? If a person with no prior history of mental illness is suddenly on a certain medication, with a certain side efect the GOVT can declare that a person is unfit to own or carry a fire arm.
The solution is not banning guns, or having medical tests done on people. The solution is for every adult person to open carry a fire arm. People freak out if they see an individual walking with a high powered rifle in the street but every person on the street is carrying one, its no big deal.
Unless every gun is destroyed as well as the plants and manufacturers, then criminals will own a firearm. Its shooting fish in a barrel.
With that said, Im keeping my guns, and Im buying more. I can reload my own ammo also.
People want the Govt. to give some kind of mentally ill test to check if we are qualified to purchase or own a gun. I have a problem with that. How many people in this country are on medication? Now what are the side effects of that medicine? If a person with no prior history of mental illness is suddenly on a certain medication, with a certain side efect the GOVT can declare that a person is unfit to own or carry a fire arm.
The solution is not banning guns, or having medical tests done on people. The solution is for every adult person to open carry a fire arm. People freak out if they see an individual walking with a high powered rifle in the street but every person on the street is carrying one, its no big deal.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:28 am to 632627
Weagle99 sucks cock, I have proof.
This post was edited on 9/3/15 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:34 am to 632627
I agree with your overall assessment; however, a couple of issues.
The principle cuts both ways. Guns also make it easier for people to defend themselves either in an individual sense or in a broad sense.
Speaking in a broad sense, freedom has been won at the end of guns. And not just freedom in a independent sense - freedom from oppression, abuse and death. There will always be the "thing" used by evil or good, whether it's a gun, sword, spear or whatever. How many historical tragedies may have been avoided or lessened if the oppressed had had a means to effectively defend themselves?
In an individual sense, why would you think it safer and less tragic for the elderly, affirmed or simply physically challenged to be unable to defend themselves against brute force thuggery? A physically large, tough thug would probably love the idea of no guns anywhere - he'd be more free to commit his crimes without fear of a bullet. And it seems like in areas where guns are heavily restricted, this is often the case.
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Guns absolutely make it easier for people to kill others, much easier then knives or other deadly weapons. If guns ceased to exist the world would be a safer, less tragic place.
The principle cuts both ways. Guns also make it easier for people to defend themselves either in an individual sense or in a broad sense.
Speaking in a broad sense, freedom has been won at the end of guns. And not just freedom in a independent sense - freedom from oppression, abuse and death. There will always be the "thing" used by evil or good, whether it's a gun, sword, spear or whatever. How many historical tragedies may have been avoided or lessened if the oppressed had had a means to effectively defend themselves?
In an individual sense, why would you think it safer and less tragic for the elderly, affirmed or simply physically challenged to be unable to defend themselves against brute force thuggery? A physically large, tough thug would probably love the idea of no guns anywhere - he'd be more free to commit his crimes without fear of a bullet. And it seems like in areas where guns are heavily restricted, this is often the case.
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