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Posted on 8/30/15 at 2:30 pm to KillerNut9
I would be happy if it was cardale. I never want to see Barrett against our defense again. One of the more impressive performances I've seen live.
Posted on 8/30/15 at 3:30 pm to hsfolk
Every OSU fan here says Barrett
I agree
I agree
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:13 am to TxTiger82
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I would start Barrett and use Jones situationally.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:34 am to boXerrumble
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If he starts Barrett, the media will turn this into a shitstorm for the entire season.
I for one, want this to happen. More distractions means less focus. Ohio St. slipping up for one game is alot different than LSU slipping up for one game.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:37 am to boXerrumble
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Jones and Barrett are both dual threat QBs who bring pretty much the same thing.
Not really. Like at all.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 8:38 am to Jon Ham
Without really denouncing Cardale Jones' leadership, Urban Meyer indirectly said J.T. Barrett is the better leader and has the mentality of a coach on the field.
As has been said multiple times, J.T. Barrett is coming off one of the best seasons a QB has had in B1G history. Personally find Russell Wilson's lone season at Wisconsin more impressive, statistically, but he was a fifth-year senior and Barrett was a freshman.
This all being said, I think it would be foolish to not take advantage of Cardale's physical gifts. He should, and likely will, be used situationally.
This job likely goes to Barrett.
As has been said multiple times, J.T. Barrett is coming off one of the best seasons a QB has had in B1G history. Personally find Russell Wilson's lone season at Wisconsin more impressive, statistically, but he was a fifth-year senior and Barrett was a freshman.
This all being said, I think it would be foolish to not take advantage of Cardale's physical gifts. He should, and likely will, be used situationally.
This job likely goes to Barrett.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:14 am to hoopsgalore
Won't matter...after Bud cooks up some blitzes
(yes, VT will lose, but it is time to be optimistic until kickoff )
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:20 am to Jon Ham
Ohio State's passing game is very overrated.
Jones was lightning in a bottle and Barrett did well when he had time to throw, but neither are good passers under pressure. Their ability to scramble mitigates some of that, tho.
Luckily, the bulk of schedule can't rush the QB overly well.
Jones was lightning in a bottle and Barrett did well when he had time to throw, but neither are good passers under pressure. Their ability to scramble mitigates some of that, tho.
Luckily, the bulk of schedule can't rush the QB overly well.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 9:56 am to Billy Mays
I would start Jones since this is his last year. But jt will get the nod
Posted on 8/31/15 at 10:38 am to boXerrumble
quote:I think people forget how great Barrett is.
He has no choice... Cardale exploded in the Big 10 title game, against Alabama in the semifinal, and against Oregon in the title game.
If he starts Barrett, the media will turn this into a shitstorm for the entire season.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 11:01 am to SwaggerCopter
JT was arguably the best QB in the nation when he went down; he was incredible. I also think he's a better fit for Urban's system. I'd start him.
I will say that I think this will be more difficult than the managing of a 2-QB system like Urban has done in the past. It's one thing when you have a senior/freshman and can design specific packages for each. It's also one thing when you have a guy who's a complete unknown in Jones and a guy who's playing exceptionally well in Barrett.
Now, he's got two guys who are essentially established stars. Hell Jones thought about going pro. These are guys who are namebrands and have egos based on the fact that they have proven what they can do on the field, but at the end of the day there's only one football.
OSU is the most talented team in the country and I believe Meyer is the best coach in the country (brace for thread derail), but I think this will be more difficult to manage than people think. If OSU doesn't win it all, this is why IMO.
I will say that I think this will be more difficult than the managing of a 2-QB system like Urban has done in the past. It's one thing when you have a senior/freshman and can design specific packages for each. It's also one thing when you have a guy who's a complete unknown in Jones and a guy who's playing exceptionally well in Barrett.
Now, he's got two guys who are essentially established stars. Hell Jones thought about going pro. These are guys who are namebrands and have egos based on the fact that they have proven what they can do on the field, but at the end of the day there's only one football.
OSU is the most talented team in the country and I believe Meyer is the best coach in the country (brace for thread derail), but I think this will be more difficult to manage than people think. If OSU doesn't win it all, this is why IMO.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 11:04 am to FootballNostradamus
If we can handle VT, there will be plenty of playing time to go around at the beginning of the year. That will help.
If JT comes out strong, it will quelch any QB controversy.
If JT comes out strong, it will quelch any QB controversy.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 11:21 am to TxTiger82
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I would start Barrett and use Jones situationally.
Outside of some sort of goalline or Tebow package, what would you use Jones situationally in? Barrett is the better runner overall and passer. Are you gonna have a "chunk it deep" package?
Posted on 8/31/15 at 11:23 am to KosmoCramer
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If we can handle VT, there will be plenty of playing time to go around at the beginning of the year. That will help.
If JT comes out strong, it will quelch any QB controversy.
I def think the schedule sets up nicely, but I don't think you're quenching the controversy. Mop-up time against Moo St is not the same for someone who was considering making the leap and possibly being a 1st round pick last year. That's gonna be a hard pill to swallow.
I also don't think Barrett is gonna kill it against VT. The Hokies are gonna be pretty savage on D this year, and all they've heard is this is a dicey year for Beamer whereas all OSU has heard is they're invincible. OSU wins in the end cause VT's offense, per usual, is anemic, but this sets up for a really close game IMO.
Posted on 8/31/15 at 11:26 am to FootballNostradamus
JT Barrett - 6'1/225
Cardale jones - 6'5/250
I'm starting Jones
Cardale jones - 6'5/250
I'm starting Jones
Posted on 8/31/15 at 11:32 am to 12Pence
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JT Barrett - 6'1/225
Cardale jones - 6'5/250
Good point.
Johnny Manziel 5'11 200
John Brantley 6'3 220
Size is not nearly as important in the college game.
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