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re: This classic sums up Notre Dame and their pre-season ranking quite well

Posted on 8/8/15 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8129 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 5:35 pm to
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They may be worthy of a top 20 ranking but not top 5 or 10 ranking that some have them at.


Top five is a stretch, but top ten is not.

A team returns 19 or 20 starters and only three or four other college teams have more NFL talent in the two deep right now...if it weren't ND, a lot more people would be calling them a sleeper pick.

I've never been totally sold on Kelly or his staff, but this team is about as loaded as it has ever been since I've been following the program. It's the most talented ND roster in twenty years.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
46067 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 5:37 pm to
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If you know anything about football and don't think they are a top 20 team to start this season then you are lying to yourself.


I would have them between 15-20. I saw one publication that had them at 4. That is absurd.

quote:

Malik Zaire will be a Heisman contender


Based on one good performance in a bowl game? Does the name Trevor Knight ring a bell here?
This post was edited on 8/8/15 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
70447 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 5:40 pm to
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Bama OM MSU and Auburn were all ranked higher before the bowls

And after
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41839 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 5:42 pm to
talent wise, this is the best ND team since 1993 but let the plebs, pleb thinking othwrise
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23506 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 6:35 pm to
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Just curious, why did you go back 25 years? Larger sample size? Honestly though as of recently, Bama is DBU with 6 first round picks in the past 10 years and the most currently playing.


I went back where the article I linked went back to. I don't really care about the title but it's pretty obvious OSU has historically been one of the best
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
62168 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 6:41 pm to
Yep. Couldnt have said it better myself.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
62168 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

A team returns 19 or 20 starters and only three or four other college teams have more NFL talent in the two deep right now





You're joking, right?


LSU
Alabama
Ohio State
Florida State


^ Those teams without a doubt have more NFL talent.


Teams that i think would easily compare as of today:

Texas A&M
Georgia
Auburn
USC


Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
62168 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 6:55 pm to
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Malik Zaire will be a Heisman contender. They were 3 turnovers away from being a playoff team last year and Golsten leaving will only improve that.


What in the actual frick? Do you hear yourself? This video is talking to you btw.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 6:57 pm to
ignores the fact that the ASU game was a 1 possession game before Golsen went on a turn over streak.

Well then y'all clearly should have won
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
70447 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 7:03 pm to
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only three or four other college teams have more NFL talent in the two deep right now

Ole Miss says "hey"
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31641 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 7:08 pm to
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Three turnovers from being a playoff team?


I think he meant three turnovers per game.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41839 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 7:17 pm to

quote:

You're joking, right?


LSU
Alabama
Ohio State
Florida State


says 4 teams can compare in terms of NFL talent, then you proceed to list only 4 teams and then ask if he is joking?


am i alive?
This post was edited on 8/8/15 at 7:19 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
71865 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 7:43 pm to
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They were 3 turnovers away from being a playoff team last year and Golsten leaving will only improve that.


The lack of insight for this guy is funny. He's shown the video and still doesn't get it.
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9758 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 8:17 pm to
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A team returns 19 or 20 starters and only three or four other college teams have more NFL talent in the two deep right now


I watched both USC and Arizona State both cruise to victories over Notre Dame. Golson wasn't the problem. Being severely overmatched on the offensive and defensive lines, as well as a lack of talented skill players, was the problem.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
59714 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 8:30 pm to
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Can't take notre dame seriously because 2012


So ridiculous that that team got to play for a National title
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 9:27 pm to
Who else was supposed to play in it? Oregon lost to P12 champ Stanford at home (who lost to Notre Dame already). Ohio State was banned from postseason play.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
85114 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 9:36 pm to
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Who else was supposed to play in it? Oregon lost to P12 champ Stanford at home (who lost to Notre Dame already). Ohio State was banned from postseason play.
Idk but ND was pathetic. Downright pathetic. It wasn't just the score. Alabama probably played 7 or 8 teams that looked comparable talent wise. ND, holy shite. Their players looked and played like little girls. Fluker and company were mauling their players. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a game that big where one team looked like they didn't belong in the same universe as the other team like that.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
85114 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 9:38 pm to
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talent wise, this is the best ND team since 1993 but let the plebs, pleb thinking othwrise

You realize everyone will get to watch them right? Can't wait to see how dominant this team is.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 9:41 pm to
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Idk but ND was pathetic. Downright pathetic. It wasn't just the score. Alabama probably played 7 or 8 teams that looked comparable talent wise. ND, holy shite. Their players looked and played like little girls. Fluker and company were mauling their players. I'm not sure if I've ever seen a game that big where one team looked like they didn't belong in the same universe as the other team like that.

Yeah they looked like arse in the title game but that doesn't automatically mean they shouldn't have been there.

Ohio State was banned.
We didn't win our division and looked like arse in the Sugar.
Oregon didn't win their division either and lost to P12 champ Stanford at home (who lost to Notre Dame).
Georgia had their chance and blew it.
Kansas State got stomped at home by Baylor.
This post was edited on 8/8/15 at 9:44 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
85114 posts
Posted on 8/8/15 at 9:58 pm to
Oh I'm not saying they didn't deserve it. Just that there were(had to be) better teams out there.
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