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re: Concealed Handgun Permit Questions

Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:28 am to
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11914 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:28 am to
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.now if I could put the Aliengear Kydex on the N82 pad, that would be the tits. Keep practicing with the N82, or keep the tried and true AG?


To me that sounds like a bit too much retention. I rather a standard leather double-Jclip holster that puts enough pressure on the gun from being in your waistband to provide good retention. To put it in simple terms, when I don't have the gun on me it could basically slip out of the holster on its own. But while in my waistband, my body rounds off the holster and pushes the gun into the kydex, giving it good retention.

It's whatever works best for you but I wouldn't rely on being able to twist the gun a certain way if you have to draw it.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5341 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:29 am to
I recommend dawg23 as well.

Yeah, bap, that's the way I'm leaning as well. I know practice and muscle memory are key, but to have to twist the gun into my body (as per the instructions that came with the holster) in order to draw....I don't care for it at all. I can snap the Shield outta that Aliengear with the swiftness.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 7:33 am
Posted by LSUTigerDDS
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2009
844 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:44 am to
Ha ha ha. I accidentally typed 308 instead of .380. Laugh at apparent noob. Was half asleep and on phone.

But really I know ankle isn't ideal but it is the best for my day to day attire.


And the knock on lasers I get, but have you ever tried out a crimson trace? Got one on my Glock 19, highly recommended
Posted by laangler21
On the lake.
Member since May 2012
3034 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 8:58 am to
Suppose I carry a concealed gun, without the permit. Something happens and I need to use my weapon, what, if any, differnce would it make legally?

ETA: senario 2, you get stopped by local PD, and they find out you are carrying concealed with no permit, consquences?

Assuming all of this happens in LA.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 9:01 am
Posted by tigamike
Member since Jun 2005
5122 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:01 am to
Gordon Hutchinson does classes regularly at Bass Pro and the Range in Baker. $100. Completed mine with him last week. Very reputable and good instructor
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32025 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:07 am to
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Ha ha ha. I accidentally typed 308 instead of .380. Laugh at apparent noob. Was half asleep and on phone.



lol we knew, we was just making fun at ya.

but as far as ankle goes, personally its uncomfortable
for me
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32025 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:08 am to
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Suppose I carry a concealed gun, without the permit. Something happens and I need to use my weapon, what, if any, differnce would it make legally?

ETA: senario 2, you get stopped by local PD, and they find out you are carrying concealed with no permit, consquences?


angola
Posted by Jambo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
2236 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:16 am to
Gordon Hutchinson
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 9:49 am to
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Hammertime: Ernie Gammon are also great instructors.
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LouisianaChessie: Dawg23 teaches a very informative beginners class for concealed carry.


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bootlegger:I recommend dawg23 as well.

Thanks for the kind remarks. In the interest of full disclosure, I no longer send 1911's to people who post nice things about my class. I now send out Glock 19's.

In response to the OP - there are a lot of instructors out there, with varying levels of knowledge about the legal aspects of of CCW. I would suggest that you can't afford to be taught stuff that might cause you to be killed or to land in prison.

Nobody intentionally teaches crap. Everybody thinks they teach a good class. My advice is to do some homework, and check references from knowledgeable people.to ensure you're getting solid instruction.

I've had a lot of attorneys, and several LSU law professors, in my class. I think I'm pretty safe in saying that the stuff I'm teaching is valid.

NB: In my classes there are two criteria that aren't imposed in most other classes:
1. You need to already know how to load, manipulate and shoot your handgun. I spend very little time on "how to shoot." We spend a lot of time on "how to not get selected as a victim" and "how to not get shot."

2. Everyone must shoot a service caliber weapon (unless they have a medical condition that precludes this). 'Service caliber" means .38 Special or bigger in revolvers, and 9mm or bigger in semi-autos.

If you've never shot before, and need instruction in how to line up the sights, how to name the parts of a gun and the components of a cartridge, the NRA Basic Pistol class is just what you'll want. Precision Indoor Range and Gordon Hutchinson teach good classes.

If you're interested in taking my class, google my name (Ernie Gammon - Defense Training) and you'll find me. I'm leery of posting my website address - one member complained that I was "advertising" when I posted my contact info last year.

I only have time to teach my class about once per month - always on a Saturday. My classes fill up very quickly once I announce a class date, so I don't need to advertise. (Besides, I'm fortunate in that this doesn't have to be a primary, r even a significant, source of income).

I'm an NRA certified Pistol Instructor, and am also an NRA Certified Personal Protection Instructor.

If you Google my name you'll find my website. On that site there is a page entitled "Courses" that contains an outline of topics covered in my class.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:10 am to
You've just got to learn to put your thumb on the back of the slide and then twist the butt towards you

Eta: I needed it for the level of activity I do during the day. Bapple can attest to the sweat stains on my PPQ (G20 has the same)
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 10:14 am
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13965 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:31 am to
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1. You need to already know how to load, manipulate and shoot your handgun. I spend very little time on "how to shoot." We spend a lot of time on "how to not get selected as a victim" and "how to not get shot."


Seriously, that should be a state requirement.

Some of the lesser instructors will take a customer who's never shot a gun before, and slide them through the class just to make a few bucks.

quote:

I only have time to teach my class about once per month - always on a Saturday.


Don't even try to find Ernie during LSU football season
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 7:11 pm to
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Don't even try to find Ernie during LSU football season
Don't blame me. None of those LSU fans want to sit in class on game days.

I'm focused more (no pun intended) on dove hunting and sporting clays events. I can do this because I own a DVR.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6818 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:16 pm to
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But really I know ankle isn't ideal but it is the best for my day to day attire.

Is there anyway you can use pocket carry? If not, a few other alternatives:
https://thunderwear.com/holsters.asp
Holster Shirt
Posted by tigerspaw
Member since Jan 2015
30 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 10:38 am to
EBRP Sheriff's office does classes at their range.
225 389 8268. They also supply and notarize all of the forms for you.
Posted by Bulletproof Lover
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
1900 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:05 pm to
EBR Sheriff doesn't have a range, they lease BRPD's range. Contact Charlie Robinson at the BRPD range. He is the best in Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 7/25/15 at 9:07 pm
Posted by Who Me
Ascension
Member since Aug 2011
7090 posts
Posted on 7/25/15 at 9:38 pm to
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EBR Sheriff doesn't have a range, they lease BRPD's range. Contact Charlie Robinson at the BRPD range. He is the best in Baton Rouge.



What you did there. I see it.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11914 posts
Posted on 7/26/15 at 9:06 am to
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1. You need to already know how to load, manipulate and shoot your handgun. I spend very little time on "how to shoot." We spend a lot of time on "how to not get selected as a victim" and "how to not get shot."


This is an aspect of classes that most students don't realize. I tell them if they want true handgun training to take a defensive handgun course, which typically lasts a day. Let's just say there has been about a 0% turnover rate with my suggestion . But some have come back to me for private lessons before as well so at least some are willing to put in the time. It sucks that the vast majority of those who take a class won't carry, and the majority that carry don't train regularly.
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