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Game of Thrones Season 5 In the Books vs. In The Show, spoilers
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:44 pm
Wyman Manderly
Jamie in Dorne vs. Riverlands
D&D's Master List
Stannis
Loras Tyrell
D&D are a disaster left to their own devices. Anyone find it ridiculous that the argument that it was a good season relies on one episode?
Jamie in Dorne vs. Riverlands
D&D's Master List
Stannis
Loras Tyrell
D&D are a disaster left to their own devices. Anyone find it ridiculous that the argument that it was a good season relies on one episode?
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:56 pm to NIH
Nailed it. I'll watch the show, but it has clearly jumped the shark. I can't believe that GRRM had allowed them to frick up his story.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:05 pm to NIH
Yeah something about it was just off and I could tell that without even having read the books. Just seemed different.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:12 pm to NIH
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D&D are a disaster left to their own devices.
Now come on, there was-
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Anyone find it ridiculous that the argument that it was a good season relies on one episode?
Ohh.... yeah. Jon Snow's arc this season was an improvement on the books, as was accelerating Tyrion getting to Dany. But the rest of it I found sub-par, particularly Jaime's. The only good scene in that is Jaime being with Myrcella, and that's it. Would have much rather seen him go against the Blackfish and slap around some Freys for the season. Plus they don't set up Jaime's animosity against Cersei at all, which is ridiculous. Not to mention the Sand Snakes and Elara were infuriating. If you can only boil it down to one being hot and having good tits, you have a shite story.
EDIT: And Cersei's was great, but they stayed closest to the books on her, and who would have thought it was the best (maybe save Jon's).
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:20 pm to NIH
Selmy dying actually opened the way for Tyrion to be Dany's hand
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:42 pm to NIH
Dorne was a disaster. That doesn't change the fact reading about Jaimie in the Riverlands wasn't really interesting at all. Also, the less Iron Born bullshite, the better.
Also, I'm not sure I understand why people are upset over Loras. People act like he's some ridiculous gay caricature in the show. The biggest difference is you actually see the characters, while the POV style of the books sort of hides all the private stuff. And let's be honest, GRMM pretty much just made up shite for him to do to get rid of him in the books.
The season did get off to a slow start. Again, Dorne was a disaster. The last episode, while still very good, was rushed. But let's not pretend this was some total disaster of a season that D&D completely pulled out of their asses. The show is pretty damn close to the book. Several of the story lines end in the exact same place as a Dance with Dragons, while some are a little behind and some are a little ahead.
I'm sorry if you were duped into believing the Iron Born and Lady Stoneheart were more important than they actually are. Keep looking down on the show though. That won't stop it from being extremely popular and critically acclaimed.
Also, I'm not sure I understand why people are upset over Loras. People act like he's some ridiculous gay caricature in the show. The biggest difference is you actually see the characters, while the POV style of the books sort of hides all the private stuff. And let's be honest, GRMM pretty much just made up shite for him to do to get rid of him in the books.
The season did get off to a slow start. Again, Dorne was a disaster. The last episode, while still very good, was rushed. But let's not pretend this was some total disaster of a season that D&D completely pulled out of their asses. The show is pretty damn close to the book. Several of the story lines end in the exact same place as a Dance with Dragons, while some are a little behind and some are a little ahead.
I'm sorry if you were duped into believing the Iron Born and Lady Stoneheart were more important than they actually are. Keep looking down on the show though. That won't stop it from being extremely popular and critically acclaimed.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 8:48 pm
Posted on 7/14/15 at 8:58 pm to NIH
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Anyone find it ridiculous that the argument that it was a good season relies on one episode?
IMDB episode rankings for series
3 episodes in the top 10, 7 in the top 20. Apparently, some people thought it wasn't just one episode. Sorry you had such a poor experience watching this year.
Posted on 7/14/15 at 10:35 pm to NIH
I thought that about 80% of the season sucked. Those writers are just as clueless as GRRM.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 9:27 am to NIH
I haven't found that the changes from the book are that bothersome. Some I think were very good choices (deleting Young Griff and all the Shy Maid stuff for example). Some I am neutral on (leaving out Lady Stone Heart for example). Some I would have liked for them to keep closer to the book (Frey Pie for example).
But overall I think they've done a pretty good job hewing close to the books but not making the mistake of trying to do an impossible exact match with them.
However, I do think that they have made some missteps in execution which are kind of worrying for future seasons. For example, I don't mind them having Stannis on an arc to where he burns his daughter (and Selyse to where she tries to stop it) but for me it was done clunckily with sudden jarring reversals of character for both of them. Same with Allister Thorne with the whole letting he wildlings in and THEN deciding to kill Jon. If they wanted Thorne as part of the "For the Watch" scene, ok. But they just didn't execute it well in my opinion. Even the threat of the Sparrows and the Faith Militant wasn't done convincingly IMO.
And tons has been written and said about Dorne. I'm not sure what happened there. I'm guessing some time in the future we'l hear about a 2nd production unit or something that was not up to snuff.
But overall I think they've done a pretty good job hewing close to the books but not making the mistake of trying to do an impossible exact match with them.
However, I do think that they have made some missteps in execution which are kind of worrying for future seasons. For example, I don't mind them having Stannis on an arc to where he burns his daughter (and Selyse to where she tries to stop it) but for me it was done clunckily with sudden jarring reversals of character for both of them. Same with Allister Thorne with the whole letting he wildlings in and THEN deciding to kill Jon. If they wanted Thorne as part of the "For the Watch" scene, ok. But they just didn't execute it well in my opinion. Even the threat of the Sparrows and the Faith Militant wasn't done convincingly IMO.
And tons has been written and said about Dorne. I'm not sure what happened there. I'm guessing some time in the future we'l hear about a 2nd production unit or something that was not up to snuff.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 9:48 am to NIH
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Anyone find it ridiculous that the argument that it was a good season relies on one episode?
I don't agree with this. Calling it terrible based on 1 episode isn't fair either (Dorne was an unmitigated disaster). I think it is fair to say that quality dropped, but the season was not a disaster. It was good - the Arya/House of Black and White stuff was good. The Sparrows were good (Jonathan Pryce is the best casting decision they've made since Emma Peel, IMHO - and we got a scene with them together).
Dorne was really, really bad. It happens.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:49 pm to NIH
So the OP is about some but hurt book reader that still hasn't grasped the concept that the books and TV Show are two completely different mediums? Got it.
Posted on 7/15/15 at 1:53 pm to NIH
The intro to either book 4 or 5, the 'alchemist' that kills Pod, is that really Jaqen H'ghar? Or is that something I read too much into?
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