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re: Lebron Coming Back to Cleveland....

Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:24 am to
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:24 am to
hell mj quit on basketball! Not just his city, but the sport all together! He quit in his prime for selfish reasons. He thought he was too good for the nba, and quit on everyone!
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:26 am to
Winning championships got boring I guess. Lebron wouldn't know what 3 in a row feels like
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:49 am to
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I love how the haters use this as a crutch. He was hated by the irrational morons way before this

Use it as a crutch? What am I using it as a crutch for?

He wasn't hated nearly as much back then.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:51 am to
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Uhh no that's not common sense. LeBron did that and certainly isn't hated in Cleveland and it's pretty reasonable to say a minority of NBA fans hate him.

He's hated by a lot of people. I wouldn't say a majority of fans hate him but it's close to 50/50.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:54 am to
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Only to the idiots

Well your legacy includes what idiots think of you
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:55 am to
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He wasn't hated nearly as much back then.

Chosen One
Wearing #23
Chalk
Perceived deferring
End of 2010 Celtics Game 6
Crab dribble

The list goes on and on before the 2010 offseason.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 11:59 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 11:57 am to
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Use it as a crutch? What am I using it as a crutch for?

He wasn't hated nearly as much back then.
I disagree. He was hated by day 1. And my reasoning is this:


For whatever reason, MJ fans and older fans felt threatened by Lebron. I cant explain it but it was like Lebron was here to steal a part of their past and they were going to have none of it
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:04 pm to
Well there's no way to prove whether he was hated more back then or now but I saw it differently.

It seemed to me since we were exposed to him so early that most people loved him. Then he got drafted by his hometown team and he was just set up to be a guy everybody liked.

Then he made "the decision" and even ESPN started calling him a villain.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:05 pm to
He was definitely hated back then. That happens when you're the best player in the league. MJ was hated too.

But most people were on his side back then. It's a lot closer to 50/50 now
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:09 pm to
Were you paying attention at all? Wade couldn't be counted upon in the playoffs anymore even when he rested 35 games to be ready for that exact situation. That team had 3 "great" players, but two of them were inconsistent and their overinflated contracts made it difficult to build a solid roster under the cap.

As constructed it was obvious that Lebron would have to continue carrying them under the façade of the "big 3" and a bunch of mid-level exceptions and veteran's minimum contract players late in their careers that Lebron happened to be able to recruit. Having said this, you don't seem very rational about this topic and likely don't want to have a reasonable discussion anyway so I'm probably wasting my time.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:09 pm to
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The Michael Jordan effect

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96792 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:15 pm to
Don't you mean the Scottie pippen effect. Bulls with pippen, 6 titles. Without, 0 titles
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51880 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:17 pm to
Forgot Pippen had 6 finals MVP's
Posted by hoopsgalore
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:18 pm to
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For a GREAT sports city starving for a championship, has there ever been a better story in sports? If Lebron can deliver a title to a city that hasnt felt glory in 51 loooooong years, will that put Lebron at the top? Is winning one title in Cleveland a game changer for his legacy? Being a hometown kid and lifting an entire region and fanbase from its knees of futility is such a great story. If there is ever a time, the time is now! For all the jokes, negative comments and heartbreak, Cleveland has remained loyal to its franchises. 51 years is long enough! No excuses, get it done and earn it!



Gain some perspective, you loser.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Member since Oct 2011
36825 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:27 pm to
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25 year old kid

Wut?



It is a good story, but it would have been an even better story if he never left his "hometown" to go play with his friends in South Beach.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83862 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:34 pm to
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He is also in the east. Now if he dominates the Warriors like he did the Hawks I might be impressed.
How fricking stupid can you be? He'd basically have to beat the West All-Stars for you to ever acknowledge his ability. Good lord man.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96792 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 12:37 pm to
You must have also forget the Bulls did better with Pippen and no jordan, then they ever did with Jordan and no Pippen. You forgot that too
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2781 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:12 pm to
It's a good story but not particularly heart warming or special in a historical sense. Mainly because I don't think the public has a love affair for LeBron like they have for other mega athletes.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:13 pm to
Also the season after Jordan's first retirement the Bulls lost only two games more than the previous season and pippen was 2nd in MVP voting.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:15 pm to
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would have been an even better story if he never left his "hometown" to go play with his friends in South Beach.


yeah frick a 25 year old kid for playing ball in miami with his best friends, let him rot
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