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Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:15 am to roadGator
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I didn't ask if the innocent folks were still locked up. I can't believe they are still being made to pay the stupid tax if they are still in jail though. They've paid for their very poor decisions to mingle with criminals openly.
It was a COC meeting open to all riders. But keep believing the horseshite lies. People having their constitutional rights violated and treated like they're in the old Soviet Union or Nazi Germany is perfectly fine as long as they are people you don't like. Pathetic.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:16 am to Darth_Vader
You've already made up your mind. I'm waiting for all the facts to come out.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:16 am to purpleleaf
quote:
Ok you can let this thread die now.
You do know you're free to not click on this thread, right?
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:17 am to Darth_Vader
It does need anchored.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:17 am to Darth_Vader
I didn't realize aledged Bikers were so whiney. Sheesh. America has some of the most ignorant and arrogant, entitled whiney people on the face of the earth. It's disgusting.
You do something stupid you get locked up for a sec, pay out lots of money to go free. Been there done that and yes I blame myself when I am wrong and don't act like a 4 year and deny and blame everyone else. Call me old school and I hate this new school whiney crap.
Police state? What the he'll are you whining about? I do want the police there when I am trying to enjoy a beautiful Sunday afternoon out dining or whatever with my family "unarmed" and a buncha whiners pull guns and other weapons in a childish melee putting honest decent peeps in harms way. Heck yeah I want them present.
You do something stupid you get locked up for a sec, pay out lots of money to go free. Been there done that and yes I blame myself when I am wrong and don't act like a 4 year and deny and blame everyone else. Call me old school and I hate this new school whiney crap.
Police state? What the he'll are you whining about? I do want the police there when I am trying to enjoy a beautiful Sunday afternoon out dining or whatever with my family "unarmed" and a buncha whiners pull guns and other weapons in a childish melee putting honest decent peeps in harms way. Heck yeah I want them present.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:19 am to BigSECfan
Whiney and violent. That's a weird combination.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:19 am to roadGator
I agree with Darth on this, and before you say I too have made up my mind, yes I have on one issue and one issue only, and that is that they have a large number of completely innocent people locked up with no way to get out due to a stupidly high bond set.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:21 am to Agforlife
How do we know which ones are innocent yet? That seems to be the big issue.
I imagine all the interviews were the same...
Did you fire a weapon?
No, I'm innocent.
Rinse
Repeat
I imagine all the interviews were the same...
Did you fire a weapon?
No, I'm innocent.
Rinse
Repeat
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:22 am to BigSECfan
quote:
a buncha whiners pull guns
link to evidence?
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:22 am to roadGator
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You've already made up your mind. I'm waiting for all the facts to come out.
I've seen enough facts to know two things at this point.
1. Something did happen in Waco that day. But whatever it was, the story being told by the Waco PD is not a full, fair, and honest assessment of whatever that was.
2. A whole lot of innocent people were rounded up by the Waco PD and have been sitting in jail for over two weeks for doing nothing more than riding a motorcycle and exercising their constitutional right of free assembly. I'm sure some of the people in jail are guilty of something, but most are not guilty of anything.
And the fact so many innocent people have been sitting in jail this amount of time is disturbing. But what's even more disturbing is that so many on here who I'm sure profess to love this country, it's freedoms, liberty, and adherence to law, are all perfectly fine with having so many of their fellow citizens have their rights shite upon just because they don't like they way they look.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:23 am to BigSECfan
STFU you dumbass.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:24 am to BigSECfan
quote:
I didn't realize aledged Bikers were so whiney. Sheesh. America has some of the most ignorant and arrogant, entitled whiney people on the face of the earth. It's disgusting.
You do something stupid you get locked up for a sec, pay out lots of money to go free. Been there done that and yes I blame myself when I am wrong and don't act like a 4 year and deny and blame everyone else. Call me old school and I hate this new school whiney crap.
Police state? What the he'll are you whining about? I do want the police there when I am trying to enjoy a beautiful Sunday afternoon out dining or whatever with my family "unarmed" and a buncha whiners pull guns and other weapons in a childish melee putting honest decent peeps in harms way. Heck yeah I want them present.
Guess the concept of innocent until proven guilty is beyond your ability to comprehend.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:25 am to Darth_Vader
quote:They won't think it so cool when it comes knocking on their door.
But what's even more disturbing is that so many on here who I'm sure profess to love this country, it's freedoms, liberty, and adherence to law, are all perfectly fine with having so many of their fellow citizens have their rights shite upon just because they don't like they way they look.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 11:32 am
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:25 am to Darth_Vader
How do they, the innocent ones, look?
I don't care how they look.
How are they supposed to determine who was innocent so quickly? Believe everyone? Including the criminals?
It's a tough situation for sure. I'm sure Obama will care enough to help soon and send in his people.
I don't care how they look.
How are they supposed to determine who was innocent so quickly? Believe everyone? Including the criminals?
It's a tough situation for sure. I'm sure Obama will care enough to help soon and send in his people.
This post was edited on 6/2/15 at 11:26 am
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:26 am to roadGator
quote:
How do we know which ones are innocent yet? That seems to be the big issue.
I imagine all the interviews were the same...
Did you fire a weapon?
No, I'm innocent.
Rinse
Repeat
I'll tell you the same thing I told him. In this country you're innocent until proven guilty. In Waco this concept has been turned on it's head. These people are rotting in jail having to prove their innocent. And by your statement, you're perfectly fine with that. Once again, if you profess to love this country and what it stands for, how the hell can you be good with what's going on in Waco?
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:29 am to Darth_Vader
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2. A whole lot of innocent people were rounded up by the Waco PD and have been sitting in jail for over two weeks for doing nothing more than riding a motorcycle and exercising their constitutional right of free assembly. I'm sure some of the people in jail are guilty of something, but most are not guilty of anything.
Do we know this for a fact? I know it is being reported on biker blogs, and I know there are club members in jail who weren't involved in the fracas, but I'm guessing a sizable swath are still of a criminal persuasion.
I'm not saying that process permits those people to remain locked up right now, I just don't have the confidence that you do that they're "not guilty of anything."
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:29 am to Armymann50
quote:
They won't think it so cool when it comes knocking on there door.
(1) Their
(2) This isn't about the police coming to someones home..These degenerates were congregated and fighting each other
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:30 am to Darth_Vader
quote:
Guess the concept of innocent until proven guilty is beyond your ability to comprehend.
that's for a jury, not for the police. Innocent people get arrested. Trials sort it out.
Posted on 6/2/15 at 11:30 am to Agforlife
Just saw this morning, some have gotten reduced bond and been freed.
I honestly don't know how big Waco and the PD is, will probably take a sec to investigate 170 individual cases. And another little bit for a judge to look over the case. I could see that as why they just locked up everyone. So they can determine who did what and deescalate the situation.
Said it before. Being one of those in jail for a sec, seems like a lot better than being one of those who is dead.
I honestly don't know how big Waco and the PD is, will probably take a sec to investigate 170 individual cases. And another little bit for a judge to look over the case. I could see that as why they just locked up everyone. So they can determine who did what and deescalate the situation.
Said it before. Being one of those in jail for a sec, seems like a lot better than being one of those who is dead.
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