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re: So, Cardinals fans, here 11 games into the season
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:45 am to hiltacular
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:45 am to hiltacular
I've always pulled for Heyward, but I do not get the hype. The Braves made out like bandits with that deal, plus Markakis is an offensive upgrade while making half of what Heyward is asking for on the market. J Hey is an average hitter that can't hit middle in fastballs, it's pretty simple to see that.
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Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:46 am to hiltacular
That's shitty on their part to actually hope someone struggles for petty reasons. I cannot stand Shelby Miller, most frustrating pitcher I have ever watched pitch, still wish him nothing but the best except against the Cards.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:48 am to hiltacular
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I have no issue with Jason Heyward I just simply do not believe he is worth $20MM/season.
I agree with this.
On the one hand he is only 25.
On the other hand .265, 15-18 HRs, good D, and a bunch of strikeouts is what you will get. I don't see him being better than that.
He has decent speed, but at 6'5" 245 lbs. that is going to diminish rapidly.
I'm only a casual fan and was disappointed in the trade, but only because he came in with so much hype that you think "maybe this year." I'm sure the Braves didn't really want to get rid of him, but the business side was the reason.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:51 am to stlslick
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If heyward ever does get hot
One of these years.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:52 am to UltimateHog
We don't have to hope he struggles, he will.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:54 am to Tigertown in ATL
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On the other hand .265, 15-18 HRs, good D,
Man, I will take .265 18HR a gold glove and 15-20 SB's right now and smile. Will probably win a World Series with that or better from him to be honest.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:55 am to UltimateHog
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Man, I will take .265 18HR a gold glove and 15-20 SB's right now and smile. Will probably win a World Series with that or better from him to be honest.
At $20MM/season, honestly?
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:55 am to crimsonian
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We don't have to hope he struggles, he will.
Can I get the lotto numbers next week from you too? TIA.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:56 am to HarrisLetsRide
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The Braves made out like bandits with that deal
I wouldnt go that far.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:57 am to hiltacular
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At $20MM/season, honestly?
I'm pretty sure he's making 13.3 million.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 8:57 am to UltimateHog
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I'm pretty sure he's making 13.3 million.
Ok so you are not going to resign him
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:00 am to UltimateHog
You will be like the delusional Braves fans. Already see it. No matter how much he struggles, you will come up with random numbers to make you feel better. Like Dale said earlier. If Miller drove you crazy, Heyward should as well. Be prepared for endless groundouts to 2nd and jammed at bats.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:00 am to hiltacular
I'd prefer to stick to facts and not speculate salary or production or development. He is making 13.3 million this year no matter what. I'll pass on trying to predict a 25 year olds production in 2016 and beyond because, well, that's very stupid.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:02 am to UltimateHog
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I'd prefer to stick to facts and not speculate salary or production or development. He is making 13.3 million this year no matter what. I'll pass on trying to predict a 25 year olds production in 2016 and beyond because, well, that's very stupid.
So preparing your franchise for the future is dumb
You just don't get it. The Braves decided he wasn't worth what the open market will dictate and decided to get something in return before it was too late. You either understand that or you don't, I guess you don't.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 9:04 am
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:03 am to crimsonian
And if we win another hand full of division titles, and a couple world series, I'll live with it like I did with Shelby. 
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:03 am to hiltacular
Solid spin.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:05 am to UltimateHog
Already covering him up. You will keep doing it all year. You haven't won one with Heyward.
Like I said earlier, please pay him.
Like I said earlier, please pay him.
This post was edited on 4/20/15 at 9:07 am
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:11 am to hiltacular
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You just don't get it. The Braves decided he wasn't worth what the open market will dictate and decided to get something in return before it was too late. You either understand that or you don't, I guess you don't.
And I don't think you get that he's 25 years old and you hit him leadoff. How about you just sit back and watch the Cardinals do what the Cardinals do? 11 games on a new team and you'd think this was game 110 and he's 29. Goodness.
Also, it's the exact same thing for Shelby Miller, we chose 2 other younger pitchers and made him expendable for the same reasons, only the Cardinals front office runs circles around the Braves, so keep thinking what you think, it's part of the reason you never win anything but think you know it all.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:14 am to UltimateHog
Braves hit him everywhere. Lead off, 2, 3,6,7. Didn't work at any spot. He was best in lead off. Really sucked everywhere else. Like .212 suck.
Posted on 4/20/15 at 9:17 am to UltimateHog
Hog, Heyward was a hometown player who many really loved having but it was extremely painful to watch him perform offensively at the lowest end of his potential. At a certain point you end up giving up hope about that potential and realize that maybe your expectations were not correct to begin with.
It still is painful for some Braves fans to see him leave his home team, and that is a good reason why you see people hope he doesn't become an MVP for another team.
I do wish him well, but it is looking like Hart is a genius with the moves he made this offseason. Markakis is a great defensive player and a step up in offense so far.
It still is painful for some Braves fans to see him leave his home team, and that is a good reason why you see people hope he doesn't become an MVP for another team.
I do wish him well, but it is looking like Hart is a genius with the moves he made this offseason. Markakis is a great defensive player and a step up in offense so far.
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