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Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:56 am to Darth_Vader
You sure are an angry little man.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:57 am to TeddyPadillac
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Everyone keeps saying jesus. There's no Jesus without abraham. Hes pretty much the inventor of religion, Jews, Christians, Muslims all recognize him as pretty much the beginning of each religion.
if not abraham, then it's Moses easily before Jesus.
LULZ, Abraham and Moses....there is not a shred of evidence either of these people existed.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 10:59 am to biglego
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You love some Akhenaten
Damn straight. I've always wondered what was going on in his head that made him do that.
As far as pure technology goes, I still go with Archimedes.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:00 am to Cruiserhog
if we're talking about indirect spreading, then this thread ends up a debate between 2 people
1. whichever motherfricker figured out how to harness fire
or
2. whichever motherfricker figured out agriculture
1. whichever motherfricker figured out how to harness fire
or
2. whichever motherfricker figured out agriculture
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:03 am to NeverRains
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say "the millenial". Each and every one of us. We are changing the world by revolutionizing social media and speaking our minds like occupy wall street, etc
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
So clearly, the final answer is "some guy."
Thanks everybody. This has been a fascinating discussion.
Thanks everybody. This has been a fascinating discussion.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:06 am to blueboy
was it sumer that first organized its government in line with religion? if you want an identifiable person, that king is probably it
i forget my bronze age chronology
i forget my bronze age chronology
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
Well then really it would be whichever motherfricker figured out how to make beer. Some suggest that agriculture really got it's start because people wanted to settle in one area to raise barley or something similar to make beer.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:07 am to Darth_Vader
Don't flatter yourself, little boy.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Geez heated debate in here, a lot of motherfrickers being thrown around.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:09 am to NeverRains
Niccolo Machiavelli has to be up there.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:11 am to blueboy
quote:
So clearly, the final answer is "some guy."
In fairness, it's really "some guys" since I doubt only one dude figured out fire and single handedly spread the news.
quote:
Thanks everybody. This has been a fascinating discussion.
Well, this was always destined to devolve into groups trying to shout down each other, especially since "Jesus" was one of the main contenders.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:12 am to Jake88
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Well then really it would be whichever motherfricker figured out how to make beer. Some suggest that agriculture really got it's start because people wanted to settle in one area to raise barley or something similar to make beer.
that's part of agriculture
but i go back, it was the monkey who figured out the benefits of hallucinogenic mushrooms, per terrence mckenna
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
Modern archeology is disputing that. Evidence of written language predating the Sumerians has apparently been discovered in lower Egypt.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:13 am to NeverRains
Hammurabi.
His codified laws were the first or earliest existing system put into writing...including the presumption of innocence and the right to present evidence in one's behalf.
His code was used as a model of legal and judicial reasoning all throughout history by every civilization in the West and Middle east.
His codified laws were the first or earliest existing system put into writing...including the presumption of innocence and the right to present evidence in one's behalf.
His code was used as a model of legal and judicial reasoning all throughout history by every civilization in the West and Middle east.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:15 am to blueboy
did egypt, at that time, have the deity-ruler dichotomy? honest question. i don't know my egyptology
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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that's part of agriculture
What I'm trying to say is that the desire for ingredients for beer is what prompted agriculture and a move away from a nomadic lifestyle.
Posted on 4/18/15 at 11:26 am to SlowFlowPro
I'm far from an expert, but the evidence uncovered is from an ancient workers' village. Many if not most of them existed to build the tombs and monuments glorifying the rulers they served, whose rule, as far back as can be evidenced, is based on their connection to or representation of the deities of the day.
But that's language. No one really knows what civilization first emerged. However, since the evidence of gods occur at the same time language appears, it can be presumed this practice had previously existed for a long time.
Religion is the basis for societal unity in both cases, but its origin as such cannot be traced.
So basically, no one knows.
But that's language. No one really knows what civilization first emerged. However, since the evidence of gods occur at the same time language appears, it can be presumed this practice had previously existed for a long time.
Religion is the basis for societal unity in both cases, but its origin as such cannot be traced.
So basically, no one knows.
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