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re: Jeanerette cop dies in chase while not wearing seatbelt - Manslaughter charges
Posted on 4/14/15 at 2:59 pm to boom roasted
Posted on 4/14/15 at 2:59 pm to boom roasted
quote:Can I come hang out with you one day. You just seem so cool and awesome and better than me
More concerned about a case in a different state with very few similarities.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:01 pm to theunknownknight
Don't run from the police
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:02 pm to boom roasted
There's prosecutorial discretion for a reason. Following the letter of the law in all cases rarely provides justice to anyone. When you lose sight of that and follow all laws with absolute rigidity, you end up with our current problems- such as over criminalization, massive population of incarcerated people, and general resentment of law enforcement.
Those who can't see the spirit of the law won't see the bigger problems either. That's why our country is screwed.
Those who can't see the spirit of the law won't see the bigger problems either. That's why our country is screwed.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:02 pm to TigerHam85
quote:
Don't run from the police
You'll get shot in the back
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:04 pm to boom roasted
quote:Here is the definition of DUI manslaughter:
Not going to waste any more time arguing with people who don't think it's manslaughter but won't even read the actual statute
DUI manslaughter is when a person is driving with a blood alcohol content over the legal limit and causes an accident which results in the death of another person or persons.
So explain to me why it wasnt considered an open and shut case? I have read your statute. I understand exactly what it says. But to think there arent extenuating circumstances that change case to case is asinine
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:04 pm to slackster
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Sad story, but unless the officer's accident was the result of a collision that was initiated by the suspect, I'm not very comfortable with a manslaughter charge without a seatbelt.
I'm very comfortable with it.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:07 pm to moneyg
In fact, to think this is such an easy case is stupid. They will see if the cops driving was too reckless, was he focused, was he under protocol, would the seatbelt have saved his life etc etc. It isnt as simple as just reading a freaking statute and ending the case in 5 minutes. Could they still be guilty of manslaughter? Absolutely. But there will be multiple things that go into determining that.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:08 pm to lsupride87
You are talking about gray areas to posters who can only see black and white.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:08 pm to lsupride87
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DUI manslaughter is when a person is driving with a blood alcohol content over the legal limit and causes an accident which results in the death of another person or persons.
So explain to me why it wasnt considered an open and shut case? I have read your statute. I understand exactly what it says. But to think there arent extenuating circumstances that change case to case is asinine0
He didn't cause the accident. That was hard.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:09 pm to Barf
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So if a cop makes a traffic stop and accidentally shoots himself while getting out of the car does that also result in charges? I mean, his or her death would be directly related to the traffic stop.
That's a very poor analogy. In your example, the citizen wasn't fleeing from the officer, nor was he engaging in dangerous activity.
I think a reasonable person would conclude that evading police at high speeds that ends in a crash (with apparent attempts to physically cause a crash during the process) significantly led to the high speed accident and thus the death of the officer. The fact that the officer wasn't wearing a seat belt probably contributed to his death, but it doesn't change the fact that the suspect fleeing at high speeds also significantly contributed to his death.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:09 pm to slackster
They don't think twice about ticketing regular people for not wearing seatbelts.
Sorry, I think it's a shitty charge.
Sorry, I think it's a shitty charge.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:09 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:He ran into the guy with his car Also, who caused the accident in the cops case? DId the suspects run into the cop?
He didn't cause the accident.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:11 pm to lsupride87
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He ran into the guy with his car
And was the guy somewhere he should have been? ETA: A better question would be what did Stallwaorth do to cause the accident?
quote:
Also, who cause the accident in the cops case?
The law doesn't care in this case, nor should it. Stop trying to make bad comparisons.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:12 pm to slackster
The cop needs to be given a seat belt ticket.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:12 pm to lsupride87
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Or is it a result of the officer breaking the law and not wearing his seatbelt?
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:13 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:So you dont think there will be a case here? Just send them to jail after reading the statute?
The law doesn't care in this case,
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:14 pm to lsupride87
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So you dont think there will be a case here? Just send them to jail after reading the statute?
The guy is going to jail without a doubt.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:17 pm to lsupride87
I can speak from experience that if someone is involved in a two vehicle crash and Vehicle 1 causes Driver 2, who is not wearing a seatbelt, to be ejected and killed, Driver 1 is getting some version of a homicide charge. I've seen it many times.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:17 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Well yeh. The question is will the manslaughter charges stick. I think that will depend on what is discovered. I just dont think it is as simple as "he ran it is manslaughter". There will be multiple things looked at to determine if they are guilty of that
The guy is going to jail without a doubt.
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