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re: Are you smarter than a Singaporean 14-year-old?

Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

From the first statement, we know that Albert is sure that Bernard doesn't know the birthday, so May and June should be ruled out (the day 19 only appears in May and the day 18 only appears in June). In other words, if Albert had May or June, then he cannot be sure that Bernard doesn't know, since Bernard could have had 18 or 19.
Seems pretty clear to me.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

not its not.


It is very easy to see it couldn't be May or June as the only way for Albert to know Bernard does not know the answer to start out is for every day listed in the month of Birthday to have a duplicate in another month
Posted by Green_Tangerine
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:15 pm to
since b does not know immediately you can rule out May 19 and June 18

since B knows that A knows those can be ruled out, B also knows he can rule out June 17 (the only day remaining in June)

However if A knew it was May then why would he be able to rule out both May 15 and 16 just because May 19th was ruled out?


the option of 15th and 16th also appear in July and August.
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
7285 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

I think it's safe to eliminate the single dates (18 and 19) because Bernard would immediately know her birthday based on the list but he explicitly states he didn't know at first.


Reread the question. "Cheryl then tells Albert and Bernard separately the month and the day of her birthday respectfully."

I read this as she told Bernard the month (June) first. He still does not know her birthday until she gives the day (18th)
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96042 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

July 16

1- All days during month of birthday should have another month with a bday on same day

Leaves only July 14/16 Aug 14/15/17

2- Bernard knows the date # which allows him to narrow it down. Eliminates July/Aug 14

3- In order for Albert to know the answer, it cannot be the month of Aug as Albert could not distinguish between Aug 15/17 for Bernard. The only way Albert could also know is if it was July 16


Works for me. Seems sound enough.
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:30 pm to
Taking this one statement at a time

1) A says that he knows that B does not know C's bday. The only way he can make this statement is if the month is July or August. If the month was May or June, A could not be certain that B doesn't know the exact date, since both of those have unique numbers.

2) B says that at first he didn't know, but now he does. So given what A said, B can narrow it down to either July 16, Aug 15, or Aug 17. He can do this since the 14th is repeated in August and July, so if his number was the 14th, B still wouldn't know the exact date.

3) A says that he knows it now too. Thus, given all the previous info, it must be July 16 since A wouldn't be sure of the exact date if it was in August.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:35 pm to
quote:


I read this as she told Bernard the month (June) first. He still does not know her birthday until she gives the day (18th)



Because your reading skills aren't up to par
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:42 pm to
July 16th

Albert knows that Bernard doesn't know... which eliminates May and June because there is a chance (18 or 19) that he knows.

Since Bernard knows the date, and he says that he didn't know before, but he knows now, then it can't be the 14th or either July or August, because he still wouldn't know. It has to be one of the other three options.

Then Albert says that he now knows, which means it has to be July 16th... if it was one of the August dates, he would still be at a 50/50 chance.
Posted by KajunGator
Lake Arthur, LA
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Because your reading skills aren't up to par



Coming from an Auburn fan....that's laughable.
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:43 pm to
That Engrish.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19430 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:44 pm to
June 18

Albert knows the month is June

Bernard knows the day is the 18

There is only one scenario where both data sets are sepcific to one single date (June 18). If Bernard knew that the day was the 14, 15, 16, or 17 then there are too many Month options for Albert to know to have them both know the day.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:44 pm to
Without scrolling down, May 19th. Only date that isn't listed twice. Simple as that

What if the broad just said, "Hey, my birthday is on the 19th" to one dude? Problem solved
This post was edited on 4/13/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

June 18

Next question.




yep
Posted by mikrit54
Robeline
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:44 pm to
Yes. Because I don't live in Singapore.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:45 pm to
Without scrolling down, May 19th. Only date that isn't listed twice. Simple as that
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:46 pm to
Her birthday is May 19th
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:46 pm to
There are a lot of people below the karma line in here.
Posted by StarkRebel
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:47 pm to
I like turtles.
Posted by saintsfan1977
West Monroe, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
7800 posts
Posted on 4/13/15 at 1:47 pm to
They are taught quantum physics or quantum mechanics in high-school. I have been there. Education is at the top of the list for these people. You cant get a job at McDonalds without a College degree.
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