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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Between Seasons Edition ***Spoilers Possible***
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:50 am to Mrtommorrow1987
Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:50 am to Mrtommorrow1987
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Ser jorah mormont the commander before Jon was killed by a mutiny as well.
I kinda meant lawfully, I mean, are all those now mutineers punishable I'm sure by death or could they have done it under the code? Of course, who's going to enforce it, but seems like such a radical move for men who live under a pretty strict code for the most part.
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 10:58 am to wildtigercat93
season 6 possible directions:
Night's Watch. As of now, Thorne is in charge, with Snow out. Davos and Mel are at the wall, but I don't think they stay; friends of Snow etc are not on the welcome list for one thing. Another thing is Thorne does realize the Wall is in danger, and Stannis' faction can no longer help. Only nearby army would be Bolton's, so I can see a Thorne/Ramsay alliance.
This also pushes Tormund and the Wildlings out. So I think Mel (with Snow, comatose or revived) join the Wildlings and move back north of the Wall. Not sure about Davos; but I could see him being a "Westeros" advisor to Snow.
Sansa and Theon. I think they try to find Bran or Rickon. I think Bran is out of reach, so Rickon (and Osha) would be the likely direction. They supposedly are at another Northern House right now.
Boltons, Brienne, Ramsay, maybe Stannis. Boltons celebrate the victory the secures the North. Ramsay discovers Sansa and Theon have escaped, and leaves to track them. Brienne slips into Winterfell to rescue Sansa, who isn't there. If Brienne spares Stannis, then Stannis is with her, and he kills Roose and his wife- making Ramsay the top Bolton. Another reason I see Stannis as still alive, as I just don't see Brienne killing the wife off.
Also, I wonder if the candle signal is for Brienne, or for the people of Winterfell to rise up (under Sansa). I think it's the latter... and the people revolt as the Bolton army is feasting and partying. If so (and Stannis is alive), I could see this: Brienne and Stannis get rid of Roose et al; the remainder of Winterfell's fighting men are able to throw the Boltons out; Brienne leaves Stannis to hold Winterfell for Sansa's return. Stannis' deserters join with Winterfell, because Stannis denounces the Red Witch.
Ramsay is out hunting Sansa, survives the Bolton purge, returns to wherever the Boltons came from as the new boss. He's plotting wickedness towards Theon and Sansa, but otherwise actually pretty pleased by the outcome, as he's now the head of the house.
Night's Watch. As of now, Thorne is in charge, with Snow out. Davos and Mel are at the wall, but I don't think they stay; friends of Snow etc are not on the welcome list for one thing. Another thing is Thorne does realize the Wall is in danger, and Stannis' faction can no longer help. Only nearby army would be Bolton's, so I can see a Thorne/Ramsay alliance.
This also pushes Tormund and the Wildlings out. So I think Mel (with Snow, comatose or revived) join the Wildlings and move back north of the Wall. Not sure about Davos; but I could see him being a "Westeros" advisor to Snow.
Sansa and Theon. I think they try to find Bran or Rickon. I think Bran is out of reach, so Rickon (and Osha) would be the likely direction. They supposedly are at another Northern House right now.
Boltons, Brienne, Ramsay, maybe Stannis. Boltons celebrate the victory the secures the North. Ramsay discovers Sansa and Theon have escaped, and leaves to track them. Brienne slips into Winterfell to rescue Sansa, who isn't there. If Brienne spares Stannis, then Stannis is with her, and he kills Roose and his wife- making Ramsay the top Bolton. Another reason I see Stannis as still alive, as I just don't see Brienne killing the wife off.
Also, I wonder if the candle signal is for Brienne, or for the people of Winterfell to rise up (under Sansa). I think it's the latter... and the people revolt as the Bolton army is feasting and partying. If so (and Stannis is alive), I could see this: Brienne and Stannis get rid of Roose et al; the remainder of Winterfell's fighting men are able to throw the Boltons out; Brienne leaves Stannis to hold Winterfell for Sansa's return. Stannis' deserters join with Winterfell, because Stannis denounces the Red Witch.
Ramsay is out hunting Sansa, survives the Bolton purge, returns to wherever the Boltons came from as the new boss. He's plotting wickedness towards Theon and Sansa, but otherwise actually pretty pleased by the outcome, as he's now the head of the house.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:03 am to Scoob
this development would help push the story north of the Wall; if Stannis ends up in Winterfell, Davos would suggest going there with the Wildlings and Snow. But Mel would not want to go anywhere near Stannis now, so she would steer them elsewhere. And if she revives Snow, she would have more clout.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:09 am to Scoob
Can't wait to see a crippled half dead Stannis take down the Boltons by himself!!
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Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:13 am to wildtigercat93
Also it would be lame as hell if the Boltons get taken down by anyone other than the other Northern houses and or Jon Snow
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:18 am to wildtigercat93
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Jon snows death is on a completely different level than the red wedding
The Red Wedding set off a billion things into motion
Jon's death does the opposite of that.
I agree about Jon's death. To be fair, the Red Wedding hardly seemed to set anything up at the time. It looked as though GRRM simply ended arguably the most popular story line.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:24 am to ohiovol
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I agree about Jon's death. To be fair, the Red Wedding hardly seemed to set anything up at the time. It looked as though GRRM simply ended arguably the most popular story line.
Again, there's a difference
The Red wedding was at the heart of the story. It was in the middle of pretty much every storyline going on at the time. When it happened, it affected Pretty much every major house in the show as we'll as Jon at the wall
As important as Jon Snows storyline is, it's still completely secluded from the rest of the story so far. Jon snow dies...who cares? No one believes or cares enough about the WW impending attack for anyone to actually give a shite about the one guy that might be the answer to that problem. No major houses will be upset, no wars will begin or end from it. It is just a footnote in the library of the Nights Watch.
It only immediately effects the Wall storyline and the Wall storyline only, which is a completely terrible storyline without Jon.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:54 am to wildtigercat93
Has any TV actors hair gotten this much attention since Jennifer Anniston on Friends? 
Posted on 6/17/15 at 11:59 am to PsychTiger
Wait until you read about his contractually obligated nipples
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:02 pm to wildtigercat93
I assume that will be in the upcoming book, "50 Shades of Snow".
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:06 pm to PsychTiger
Quick question:
How come some women take on their husband's surname when they marry (Catelyn Stark), while others like Cersei and Fat Walda Frey do not?
EDIT: Actually it looks like Fat Walda did indeed take the Bolton name, so i think its just Cersei's count arse.
How come some women take on their husband's surname when they marry (Catelyn Stark), while others like Cersei and Fat Walda Frey do not?
EDIT: Actually it looks like Fat Walda did indeed take the Bolton name, so i think its just Cersei's count arse.
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:06 pm to PsychTiger
If 50 shades of grey made a billion dollars and was based off of Twilight fan fiction
How much money could someone make from creating erotica based on actual quality writing
How much money could someone make from creating erotica based on actual quality writing
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:12 pm to wildtigercat93
Good thing GRRM doesn't read the Internet, or this would be his next project and we'd never see the next book.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:18 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:of a "Hey we are amending your contract so you can cut your hair cause, first, you want to, second, it really is going to frick with the nerds in the audience thinking you are out of contract and wont be coming back. "
He had no leverage so they were able to put it in his contract for a more natural look
It makes sense that if he signed a new one that he would have more leverage to eliminate that part of the contract and be able to cut his hair.
And it's not like he cut it a whole lot, he still has "jon snow" hair
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:20 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:no it just redirected the story... this, too, could redirect the story.
Jon snows death is on a completely different level than the red wedding
The Red Wedding set off a billion things into motion
Like What if Ramsay is Azor Ahai?
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:26 pm to CarRamrod
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no it just redirected the story... this, too, could redirect the story.
Please explain to me how. Besides the WWs would have free reign to do whatever they want to.
His story is secluded, it doesn't redirect any current storylines besides the wall.
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Like What if Ramsay is Azor Ahai?
This is my point exactly. shite gets full blown retarded without Jon snow
This post was edited on 6/17/15 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:27 pm to wildtigercat93
Yall are some no question answering motherfrickers.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:29 pm to reddman
Bigger fish to fry
Plus I have no clue. Probably has something to do with how important/famous the house is.
Plus I have no clue. Probably has something to do with how important/famous the house is.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 12:50 pm to reddman
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Yall are some no question answering motherfrickers.
Her name was technically Cersei Baratheon when Robert was still alive. Here children all had/have a last name of Baratheon. Since she hated Robert, she probably hated to use the name. Once Robert died, it was easy for everyone to start referring to her as a Lannister again.
Posted on 6/17/15 at 1:23 pm to reddman
The Ladies do take their husbands surnames, however when the passes they have the option of going back to the maiden name, Cersi & Lady Redwyne are two examples. Lysa went by both.
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