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re: Paul Mainieri's Answer to This Weekend's Coaching Decision Criticisms

Posted on 3/30/15 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 6:35 pm to
yes it should be posted.,how many still on the pm train.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 6:37 pm
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4780 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 6:40 pm to
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What a winey bitch he sounds like



hmmm.
Posted by Slapouttiger
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
3087 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 6:41 pm to
PM will win the World Series this year if he just relaxes and let his players swing away.
Posted by tigernation56
im the woods
Member since Feb 2013
4780 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 6:44 pm to
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PM will win the World Series this year if he just relaxes and let his players swing away.


thank you.
Posted by goatman1419
Prairieville,LA
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 6:46 pm to
So he believes in shitty base running and not bunting people over in a late/extra inning games with no outs........go it
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14667 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 6:53 pm to
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how many still on the pm train.

I'm still in support of CPM. That doesn't mean that he never makes mistakes and when he does it's fair to call him out for them. But overall he's a good coach and I think we have a good, possibly great team. I'm looking forward to the rest of the year.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13371 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 6:58 pm to
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Third... yet again he shows he lack of faith in Zardon. Maybe I missed where Danny did something egregious. He was booted from 3B because of 1 bad game. And he was booted from first because PM had to keep Chi in the lineup. Now he's in the "Tyler Moore" doghouse where can't face a pitcher who throws from the same side of the plate even when he does get a chance to play. Poor kid.


like he said in the response, you aren't around these players and have no idea to what goes behind the decision process.

You have the right to criticize, but don't think that you have CPM figured out.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85131 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 6:59 pm to
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but don't think that you have CPM figured out.
I certainly don't pretend to.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62081 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:00 pm to
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at worst in PM's mind is the Deichman makes a single out, and the top of your lineup is due up with a man still in scoring position and 1 out.


This was not a runner at 2B only. We had runners at first and second, the double play was a possibility. You bunt to move the winning run to 3B, where most contact can score the run, AND to stay out of the double play.

Are you saying that Paul Mainieri was sleeping in the dugout during 2013 and doesn't remember the 17 double plays that a .370 career hitter Raph Rhymes hit into? Deichman doesn't even have one single college hit. Not one. He had two previous college at bats before the 8th inning of that game. GT23 is right, CPM wanted to tell everyone how he had a feeling that Deichman was going to get his first career hit in walkoff fashion on a SEC Friday night.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94674 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:00 pm to
This is odd to me and it reads like Mainieri is feeling pressure from somewhere. A coach of a team thats 23-5 and ranked in the top 5 shouldn't have to defend his decisions after a loss. Not only that but it comes off from PM as "I know more about baseball than you so STFU."
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13371 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:03 pm to
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I certainly don't pretend to.


well just something that I have noticed, but you have made comments about certain players not getting playing time for some reason or another...you then go on to say that you feel sorry for the kids because he is not getting a chance...even though like CPM said, no fan knows what exactly goes on during practice or in the locker room that dictates these positions

Posted by BasilBogomil
Member since Dec 2012
6096 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:06 pm to
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This is odd to me and it reads like Mainieri is feeling pressure from somewhere.


Did you watch LSU play this weekend?

There was a lot of WTF going on and CPM was at the center of his fair share of it.

Honestly, he should have just said "Yes, there are some things I wish I would have done differently. Period, end of story".

A mini mea culpa and some baseball platitudes would have been appropriate, but he really doesn't like to accept any blame.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:07 pm to
You made the post:

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for his apologists who were defending him with the same rhetoric. "I've been doing this longer", "I see them every day"...


I asked how is the "rhetoric" you belittle wrong. If you don't want to deal with a part of your own post, don't post it.

You seem to have a massive, arrogant hard on for a pretty successful baseball coach who has taken 2 different programs to the CWS a total of 4 times. Do your friends call you Smoke?

It's one thing to be critical...we all do it. It's another thing to be critical over and over and over. I'm sorry, but you couldn't carry PM's baseball jock if your life depended on it. Stop acting as if you have all the answers and anyone who might not agree with you is simply some ones "apologists".

Thanks for stopping by.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278663 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:09 pm to
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GT23 is right, CPM wanted to tell everyone how he had a feeling that Deichman was going to get his first career hit in walkoff fashion on a SEC Friday night.



Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62081 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:17 pm to
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I asked how is the "rhetoric" you belittle wrong.


You know what's wrong? Paul Mainieri thinking that fans can't watch the scrimmages and the games and have a decent opinion on LSU players. Ell attended most of the fall and preseason scrimmages, as did many other posters on this site. There was an unofficial scrimmage stats posted here back in February. The kid that CPM refused to bunt is a true freshman without a career hit and he hit under .200 in all combined scrimmages. Paul Mainieri deserves to feel heat for that decision that helped lose that game, and him "doing this longer" and "seeing them everyday" does not excuse his poor decision to allow the kid to swing away into a double play. Paul Mainieri deserves to feel the heat for having him in the game period at that point. Why was he in the game??? Because Mainieri has a fetish for matchups.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:19 pm to
Tell em Pique!
Posted by aaronb023
TeamBunt CEO
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:21 pm to
<3 choupique <3
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62081 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:25 pm to
Lester, do you agree that the double play was a possibility? Do you understand that a bunt takes away the double play? Bunt them over with Deichman and UK has to either pitch to Laird with runners on 2nd and 3rd and 1 out, or walk Laird and pitch to Bregman with the bases loaded and 1 out. Don't those chances at winning the game sound better than counting on the freshman with 3 career at bats to win the game?
Posted by aaronb023
TeamBunt CEO
Member since Feb 2005
11774 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:27 pm to
BUT HE'S NEVER BUNTED BEFORE IN HIS LYFE!!!!!!
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85131 posts
Posted on 3/30/15 at 7:28 pm to
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I asked how is the "rhetoric" you belittle wrong.
I never said it was wrong. It's rhetoric because it doesn't address the situation at all. It isn't relevant. Hence, "rhetoric".
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It's one thing to be critical...we all do it. It's another thing to be critical over and over and over.
Over and over and over? I disagree with his lineups sometimes. Everyone here has. That's not critical. It's just a differing opinion. I've said that I don't agree with playing Chinea at first. And it bit us Friday. It was a small part of the game thanks to all the other massive mistakes and flukes, but he missed 3 big plays, one to let the two runs score.

This has been my one criticism of one of his in-game decisions... a criticism almost everyone has shared.
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Stop acting as if you have all the answers and anyone who might not agree with you is simply some ones "apologists".
This is great. I certainly don't act like I have all the answers. I simply say what I think and expect those who think differently to defend themselves. I've been wrong here plenty of times. And I'll own it every time. Bregman batting 5th anyone?

And I'm not calling people who disagree with me apologists. Just those who will defend Paul's decisions Friday night. That's a huge leap you are making and doesn't represent my post at all.

This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 7:30 pm
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