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re: Special Needs Student Told To Remove His Varsity Letter
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:28 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:28 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Haha. Pathetic town for this even being a real issue. High school sports are bullshite. let the kid keep the letter. Are they afraid their little Johnny high school all star is going to be considered equal to the special needs kid on accident because of a fricking letter on a jacket ? it's a fricking piece of clothing. Grow up world, grow the frick up for once please, and think about the ones less fortunate than you.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:31 pm to Green Chili Tiger
In the big picture.....this is trivial matter, but since it has been posted I will give my thoughts.
Each school has different requirements for earning a varsity letter and in some cases it carries more prestige at some schools than others. It signifies an accomplishment......same as making the honor roll.
If kids start wearing varsity letters who did not participate in varsity sports it ultimately devalues the accomplishment of those that did.
If this kid had been associated with the basketball program in any way as a manager or water boy.....just like Cuba Gooding Jr in the movie Radio. Then the coach might have considered him as part of the team and might or might not have given the kid a varsity letter.
In this particular case the mother thought she was doing something special for her child while diminishing the accomplishment of others.
The school looks petty with their decision but are sticking to their guidelines to receive a varsity letter. Once an exception is made it only opens the door for more exceptions. I stand by the schools decision.
Each school has different requirements for earning a varsity letter and in some cases it carries more prestige at some schools than others. It signifies an accomplishment......same as making the honor roll.
If kids start wearing varsity letters who did not participate in varsity sports it ultimately devalues the accomplishment of those that did.
If this kid had been associated with the basketball program in any way as a manager or water boy.....just like Cuba Gooding Jr in the movie Radio. Then the coach might have considered him as part of the team and might or might not have given the kid a varsity letter.
In this particular case the mother thought she was doing something special for her child while diminishing the accomplishment of others.
The school looks petty with their decision but are sticking to their guidelines to receive a varsity letter. Once an exception is made it only opens the door for more exceptions. I stand by the schools decision.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:32 pm to forksup
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I just believe you earn some things in life. Heartless? Yes, that's life (well before SJW's and Opera's took over the nation). Give him a reward for something he actually did. Was he the MVP? Most improved? Quite simply he didn't earn a letter.
I think letters are relatively useless but they still stand for an accomplishment for a lot of kids/ some adults.
I'm also speaking as a guy that was the complete opposite of a jock in high school. Debate team, computer games, recreational soccer every other month, community service volunteer. That letter stuff had no relevance to me but I put value in things you earn a lot.
And you're a moron if you think the real value in playing sports or working in any other area is dependent on receiving a piece of cloth shaped as a letter. You don't see the lessons in working hard and making sacrifices for others as a reward and more important gain? Are you really that shallow?
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:36 pm to dante
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In this particular case the mother thought she was doing something special for her child while diminishing the accomplishment of others.
To say she was "diminishing the accomplishments of others" is merely a perspective, and not in reality true. The accomplishment should be actually fricking playing, or knowing what it took to get there.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:46 pm to dante
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while diminishing the accomplishment of others
Under your line of thinking, everyone should be just as mad when their college gives out an honorary degree. The school is giving a degree out to someone who didn't earn it thus diminishing the worth of those that did.
Also if anyone felt their Letter was diminished because a true special needs kid is wearing one, they need to turn down their sensitivity level.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:47 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:Do you think all students should make the Dean's list? Do you think all students should get A's, even the kid that has to work twice as hard as everybody else but he can only manage a B? Should all people earn the same salary regardless of their qualifications and performance?
To say she was "diminishing the accomplishments of others" is merely a perspective, and not in reality true. The accomplishment should be actually fricking playing, or knowing what it took to get there.
This is what the "sport participation trophy mentality" has created.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:49 pm to dante
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Do you think all students should make the Dean's list? Do you think all students should get A's, even the kid that has to work twice as hard as everybody else but he can only manage a B? Should all people earn the same salary regardless of their qualifications and performance?
Its a letter..
On a jacket...
That you wear in High School...
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:52 pm to dante
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dante
You're making a case to be awarded an honorary varsity letter right now.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:53 pm to Dizz
quote:While I have always thought the honorary degree was silly....it is a gesture made by a governing body to recognize an individual's accomplishment in a certain field. People don't award themselves honorary degrees.
Under your line of thinking, everyone should be just as mad when their college gives out an honorary degree. The school is giving a degree out to someone who didn't earn it thus diminishing the worth of those that did.
Also if anyone felt their Letter was diminished because a true special needs kid is wearing one, they need to turn down their sensitivity level.
I stated that the if the kid had been apart of the program in any form the coach might or might not have given him a varsity letter. In this particular case someone without authority gave him a varsity letter.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:55 pm to Green Chili Tiger
I agree with the school
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:56 pm to Green Chili Tiger
Sooo, what about bitches wearing some dudes Letter cause they are givin it up? Just sayin. I wasn't wearing my jacket to school
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:56 pm to PTBob
So if a thug shoots a Down Syndrome guy in the foot, should America give him a purple heart?
I'm all about special needs kids, but you can't give him something if he didn't EARN it. What would that say to other special needs kids who actually have their goals set high enough to achieve something? They expect it to just be handed to them? No.
I promise you they would rather earn it rather then it just be given to them because they are special.
I'm all about special needs kids, but you can't give him something if he didn't EARN it. What would that say to other special needs kids who actually have their goals set high enough to achieve something? They expect it to just be handed to them? No.
I promise you they would rather earn it rather then it just be given to them because they are special.
This post was edited on 3/27/15 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:58 pm to GrammarKnotsi
quote:that represents an accomplishment
Its a letter..
On a jacket...
That you wear in High School...
Why do all those smart kids get to wear all those ribbons at graduation.....I mean they will only wear it once....it's just a ribbon.....it's only high school right?
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:58 pm to Jaydeaux
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Sooo, what about bitches wearing some dudes Letter cause they are givin it up?
Yous said yourself that they earned it.
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cause they are givin it up
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:03 pm to dante
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it is a gesture made by a governing body to recognize an individual's accomplishment in a certain field. People don't award themselves honorary degrees.
I still wouldn't call that earning it.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:11 pm to Dizz
quote:If the coach had made him an honorary member of the team and awarded it to him it would not have been a big deal at all and the players would have probably supported it 100%.
I still wouldn't call that earning it.
If this kid was not a special needs kid, no one would be taking the side of the mother. If her kid was crazy about basketball but he was horrible and she gave him a letter he would be ridiculed.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:13 pm to Dizz
If I was on that varsity team I would give my letter jacket to that kid just to make damn sure everyone knew I wasn't associated with the butthurt twatmonkeys that wanted to take a freaking jacket from a retarded kid. What a bunch of morons.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:14 pm to dante
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Do you think all students should make the Dean's list? Do you think all students should get A's, even the kid that has to work twice as hard as everybody else but he can only manage a B? Should all people earn the same salary regardless of their qualifications and performance?
This is what the "sport participation trophy mentality" has created.
Grades are completely different than a varsity letter for playing a sport. I don't see how this special needs kid getting a varsity letter will effect any of them to the point their lives are changed in a negative way at all. They're going to college for sports or else it's entirely dependent on academics, but either way grades will play a role, and the numbers on their grades will tell the story, just like their performance in their sport will determine if they play anymore after HS. The letter on a jacket is just a tradition, and it has no real bearing on later life.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 1:19 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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The school's not wrong for making him remove the letter, the mom is wrong for buying him one.
Yeah, because high school sports are just so important that the precious letter jacket (that no one wears after graduating) should never be compromised
(and I played sports all throughout high school)
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