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re: ESPN ranks LSU as 3rd best SEC football coaching job
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:26 pm to Mr.Perfect
Posted on 2/25/15 at 9:26 pm to Mr.Perfect
How is Bama a good coaching job? Tuscaloosa sucks, have to compete with auburn, so you have to at least contend with GA for players. I think FL would be best then LSU, then it's probably GA or bama, a&m, then Tenn, after that prob aub, toss up after that.
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Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:19 pm to DEG
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How is Bama not 1?
Recruiting. Bama takes a significant drop when Saban leaves. The reason why he can win like he does, is because he takes top talent from everywhere and has maybe 6-7 guys per year at best, from the state of Alabama. The state of Alabama doesn't produce enough talent for two top teams to stack 60-70% of the class with.
Not only do you have to hold up to the powerhouse Saban has built, you have to be able to recruit nationally.
That's why IMO, it is not #1.
This post was edited on 2/25/15 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 2/25/15 at 10:30 pm to Fonzarelli
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First season was rough, Second season lost in the sugar bowl, third season crappy, 4th season fired. He still led a team to an 11-2 record and beat 4 teams in the top 10 in his second season.
LOL, Florida fans will tell you the truth about that 11-2 season. Think about this, that was the year that both Mizzu and TAMU came in. UF played Manziel in his first ever game of college and they played Mizzu late in the year after an injury plagued them (Mizzu has since won the East back to back). They played an LSU team with no Jeremy Hill, Mett in only his second SEC start, and LSU lost two OL in that game.
That team was more lucky than anything else.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 1:18 am to BayouBengal99
Bama is a top job but they are very lucky to have 2 undisputed Hall of Fame who found there way to Tuscaloosa.
They have had some stellar teams in between The Bear and Nicks reign, but nothing to the level of utter dominance that those two have.
They have had some stellar teams in between The Bear and Nicks reign, but nothing to the level of utter dominance that those two have.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:25 am to JBeam
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LSU should be #2 and ahead of Bama....just for the fact that LSU has no competition in a talent enriched state for recruiting.....Bama is in direct competition with Auburn in a state that doesn't have the talent as often as LA.......
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With this kind of mindset A&M & UGA should be #1 & #2
How in the hell can you possibly defend this genius statement?
A&M competes with 3 other major universities and UGA competes with GA Tech
They may have a lot of talent in those states but they lose a bunch year to in state rivals
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 5:27 am
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:40 am to Oyster
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The pressure at Bama would be very hard to live with. No one can live up to nicks legend.
bear Bryant stockpiled talent also. but he slowed down just a bit a coupla years before he retired and the program tanked quickly after he left. players wanted to play for the legend but when they thought he was leaving and when he actually did leave the luster was gone.
no matter who replaces him it just wont be the same and they will have impossible expectations. I think the entire college football world wants saban to slow down and then to leave.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 5:52 am to Dlab2013
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I'd argue that aTm is the best coaching job in the SEC. Win 10 games, make 5mill a year. What coach wouldn't want to make NC $$$ in their 3rd year for finishing 3-4 in the division?
it's amazing isn't it. the guy inherited a shite load of talent on offense. Sherman had recruited an amazing OL (like 3 or 4 first rounders), manzeil at qb, 2 great rb's (which he wasted) and 2 or 3 extremely good wr's.
but it's all about expectations. because they came to the SEC and they were very concerned with even being competitive and when he came out in year one with a 10 win season and beat bama he was a hero. then he got his contract.
luckiest coach on the planet. but, it seems he can recruit offense guys also. if, and that's a big if, chavis can cause an uptick in defense recruiting sumlin will again be a hero. can chavis, a damn good x's and o's guy, but not a recruiter and on the tail end of his career be the man in college station? stay tuned.
imo, he will marginally improve their D and it begin to show late in his first year. imo, chavis will greatly miss the fine coaching of db's he had at LSU.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 7:30 am to DEG
quote:Because you have to live in Alabama.
How is Bama not 1?
Posted on 2/26/15 at 8:50 am to Billder
IDK about UF. They have a cheap arse AD and an apathetic fanbase.
The cults of Bama and A&M would spend unlimited money on their programs, so they are probably the best jobs.
The cults of Bama and A&M would spend unlimited money on their programs, so they are probably the best jobs.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 8:54 am
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:09 am to DEG
quote:I'd have a hard time putting them at #2. Once Saban leaves, unless they hit another home run hire, I see them coming down a notch. Tuscaloosa doesn't recruit itself and they split in-states with Auburn. I would imagine most of the players they recruit come to play for Saban, not Bama. I'd say it's top 7-8 though.
How is Bama not 1?
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:41 am to puttytat
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LSU should be #2 and ahead of Bama....just for the fact that LSU has no competition in a talent enriched state for recruiting.....Bama is in direct competition with Auburn in a state that doesn't have the talent as often as LA.......
I'd argue that Bama's resources make it more attractive. Recruiting budget, funds, etc are matched by only a couple teams in the country. 2nd, We've always had AU in the state and always won so that's not an issue.
High school talent. I've always heard that Alabama talent isn't up to snuff but we always beat teams that are supposedly better. I have no idea where this comes from and when our high schools play out of state teams they compete very well. I've always thought this was such a bogus statement. LA, Florida, GA talent is great but Bama high school talent is as good as anybody. To say top 7-8 is just plain...whatever. This job takes a backseat to no one. Basketball no, baseball no, football, we are in a small room of qualified candidates and history has proven that.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 9:48 am
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:50 am to Roses of Crimson
Bama better enjoy now. When Satan leaves, u don't know how these Red Necks can whine!!! 
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 9:51 am
Posted on 2/26/15 at 9:50 am to Roses of Crimson
quote:We're splitting hairs when it comes to top 10 or so money schools. There's only so much you can do to one up the next.
I'd argue that Bama's resources make it more attractive
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2nd, We've always had AU in the state and always won so that's not an issue.
You haven't always won. Bama was pretty average or bad 2/3 of the last 25 years and I think that is a very important thing to remember. Bama can't rely on in-state players only to win. Most schools can't. UF/Texas/LA/Cali/Georgia would fare better than most, but they still need help.
quote:Dem sho are some rosy glasess you got on.
Bama high school talent is as good as anybody.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 9:52 am
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:37 am to Billder
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2. Alabama: If not for UF's location, Alabama would be No. 1. There's tremendous history with, like, 100 football national championships claimed by the fans.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 10:39 am to DEG
Bama isn't number one because in the state of Florida you can miss out on the top 10 recruits and still have more talent than almost every team not residing in Texas or California. They have a recruiting advantage over everyone in the sec. Doesn't matter how many schools there are. That state is absolutely loaded.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 11:03 am to Billder
I'd flip auburn and A&m but that money the Aggies have makes that ranking understandable.
Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:19 pm to puttytat
Yes Louisiana has some great talent on deck and has been above average over the last few years. However, Alabama has great talent as well. I don't think one can difinitively say that either state produces a significantly
More than the other.. With that being said they still have to contend with auburn.
More than the other.. With that being said they still have to contend with auburn.
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 2/26/15 at 12:30 pm to DEG
Espn does bamas recruiting ,beneficial scheduling and have their own referees , they don't need much of a coach !
This post was edited on 2/26/15 at 12:33 pm
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