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Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:02 pm to stout
I was a heroin addict for well over a decade and made great goods in school, had awesome GFs that had no idea and never did drugs, had great office jobs. No one ever knew until I wrecked a company vehical and failed a drug test and lost my office job in One Shell.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:02 pm to lsu480
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How long has he been addicted to meth? I am assuming its been a LONG time if he is 31 since most people don't just decide to start using meth after 20 or so.
I'm not sure the exact time, but I would say at least 10 years. The scary thing is how crazy he's getting. My parents have finally gotten to that point where we'll have to evict him because he's too unpredictable.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:02 pm to GEAUXT
Brother yes
Pain killers
He has been cut off by most in family
Pain killers
He has been cut off by most in family
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:03 pm to RLDSC FAN
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The scary thing is how crazy he's getting.
well meth does re-wire the brain
he's probably getting those ghost-nerve sensations. speeds do that
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
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I'm not sure the exact time, but I would say at least 10 years. The scary thing is how crazy he's getting. My parents have finally gotten to that point where we'll have to evict him because he's too unpredictable.
I am sure you are very familiar with the paranoia and other mental issues it causes, they only get worse. They need to get him out ASAP. I hate to say it but they need to get him arrested and make sure he gets a few months.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
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At this rate, he's going to send my parents to an early grave.
They have to cut him out of their lives for their own sanity as hard as that may be for them.
As sad as it is, sometimes parents just have to sort of give up on their children. I have seen it first hand with a family member for different reasons other than drugs.
He is 31 and has made his bed. No need for your parents to get drug down with him. Remind them that they have you, any other siblings, or any grandchildren to look forward to and that you hate to see them miss out on all of that over your brother's greed.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:06 pm to stout
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They have to cut him out of their lives for their own sanity as hard as that may be for them
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He is 31 and has made his bed.
let me be 100% clear
the parents have enabled him and allowed him to get to this point. they have to accept that, shed the guilt for past actions, and deal with the present
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well meth does re-wire the brain
Ya long term use fricks up the brain but the worst is what happens once they have been up 4-5+ days in a row. Its scary to be around them when they are spun out like that, they are so unpredictable.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:07 pm to RLDSC FAN
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what helped you recover?
Well, I had to get out of the academic exercise of whether it was a disease or a moral failure or lack of will power. It simply does not matter which it is.
For whatever reason, I could not control it. It's a fight and I did AA for many years. I hated everything about it as I want to be self reliant. But I found that it was only through being around others like me that helped me get better. I was sober for 9 years the first time and decided that I probably had it under control. So, I started again and it went downhill fast.
I was embarrassed to go back to AA and hated it again, but they helped me -- again. While some consider it a cult or another crutch, I can tell you that I never had a DWI or got into trouble by not drinking. The deal is that I had to do whatever I had to do to get as much time between me and my last drink as possible. I think every addict has to do this. It is too easy for addicts lime me to look at a program such as AA; find something we do not like; and reject it. I hated all of the "trite" sayings, like "one day at a time" or "if you don't but I now see that they are profoundly true
In early recovery I had to do what I was told to do (which I hated). But following the advice of others who had stayed sober for a while worked for me.
I wish your brother and your family the best. He can get better, but he'll need to do some real work.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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let me be 100% clear
Ok Obama!
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
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they have to accept that, shed the guilt for past actions, and deal with the present
Yep
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:07 pm to lsu480
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I hate to say it but they need to get him arrested and make sure he gets a few months.
this would be a great thing, but it's easier said than done. The've called the cops and they tell us the same thing-evict him, then we can do something. They can't just arrest him because we say he's crazy.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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1. he's gotta want to change
2. he's gotta get away from his drug-peers
Also, like SuperSaint said...do not enable him, at all, ever..The three things above is how our family approached this when we had a cousin hooked on pain killers. She's a great girl, very much loved by the whole family so we all rallied and put a quick stop to this shite. We cut off her supply by going to all her hookups and pretty much banned them from ever contacting her again. I did a lot of research on her addiction and found something to help her withdraws and now she is doing pretty well. Took about a week or so for the withdraws to subside but now it's all psychological..she still craves it now and again. I wish I could offer you a direction to go but it may take your bro hitting a low point to get or seek help. My cousin lost everything and that was her low point and it prompted her to ask for help. I don't know much about meth addiction but I hear it is a hard one to kick. He is going to want to get help or you're probably just going to be pissing in the wind...I hate this for you or anyone that faces this, it's tough and I wish you nothing but luck. Oh, another thing..do not abandon your brother.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:08 pm to RLDSC FAN
Yes, opiates are a terrible thing
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
Meth is a scary arse drug. I've seen some crazy shite with family members.
My cousin use to sell it and needed someone to ride with me out in the country to this ranch where this group of meth addicts had were holed up all spooked. Well we get there and he is making the deal and I realize they have a 100 box of 1cc syringes laying on the counter and when they were al super high, they all filled the syringes with their blood and saved them thinking they had enough meth in their blood stream that if when they were coming down if they would shoot up the blood they would get high again... I was like What in the actual frick!!
Told my Cuz it was time to bounce out the crazy farm asap
My cousin use to sell it and needed someone to ride with me out in the country to this ranch where this group of meth addicts had were holed up all spooked. Well we get there and he is making the deal and I realize they have a 100 box of 1cc syringes laying on the counter and when they were al super high, they all filled the syringes with their blood and saved them thinking they had enough meth in their blood stream that if when they were coming down if they would shoot up the blood they would get high again... I was like What in the actual frick!!
Told my Cuz it was time to bounce out the crazy farm asap
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:10 pm to RLDSC FAN
My brother was a high-functioning addict. He went into treatment for the first time at age 15. He was a really sweet guy and we never had to deal with all the really bad stuff like stealing and manipulating family members but he just did drugs like it was a second identity. He spared us the worst of it and there was never a time where we did not love him or welcome him into our home. He never became a drug zombie who was bereft of morals and compassion. He retained his humanity throughout his terrible tragic self-destructive addiction until the day he overdosed and we buried him. Looking back, I wish I had had even more compassion for him. He was a sweet, loving brother and a great guy. He just had a tragic, self-destructive flaw. I sure do miss him.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:10 pm to BIGFOOD
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. I did a lot of research on her addiction and found something to help her withdraws
hallucinogenics?
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Took about a week or so for the withdraws to subside
also, from what i've been told by people who have detoxed multiple times, this is basically like the flu for 3-5 days.
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:12 pm to RLDSC FAN
Yep. My step mom. I have so many great stories
She claims her sobriety back to when she got out of palmetto for being found passed out after shooting up some pain pills and hitting her head on the toilet while she was supposed to be watching my little sister.
Before that she lost a DON job for pills and got arrested for taking a home health patient's pills.
But she's had numerous times where she broke her sobriety. But it's like she chooses to pretend those didn't happen. At one point she got addicted to drinking listerine. I guess it was ok bc it wasn't really alcohol. I had to go pick her up from a fb game where my sister was on the homecoming court and she was wasted and embarrassing the shite out of her. I drove her home. Then cleaned about ten listerine bottles out of her car
And many times of abusing pills again. But she never got as bad off as she was before palmetto
She claims her sobriety back to when she got out of palmetto for being found passed out after shooting up some pain pills and hitting her head on the toilet while she was supposed to be watching my little sister.
Before that she lost a DON job for pills and got arrested for taking a home health patient's pills.
But she's had numerous times where she broke her sobriety. But it's like she chooses to pretend those didn't happen. At one point she got addicted to drinking listerine. I guess it was ok bc it wasn't really alcohol. I had to go pick her up from a fb game where my sister was on the homecoming court and she was wasted and embarrassing the shite out of her. I drove her home. Then cleaned about ten listerine bottles out of her car
And many times of abusing pills again. But she never got as bad off as she was before palmetto
Posted on 2/8/15 at 12:13 pm to SuperSaint
i deal with meth users on a secondary level, but they always have the best stories
speed drugs tend to re-wire people's brains and they do all sorts of crazy shite, but they can do it for a long time...if they quit, they may not "come back"
slow drugs tend to be much more dangerous and do not lend to long-term use, but after recovery a person can live a much more normal life. boring stories, too
speed drugs tend to re-wire people's brains and they do all sorts of crazy shite, but they can do it for a long time...if they quit, they may not "come back"
slow drugs tend to be much more dangerous and do not lend to long-term use, but after recovery a person can live a much more normal life. boring stories, too
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