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Has Anyone In The Sports Media Ever Heard Of Bart Starr?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:42 pm
He did quarterback the Packers to 5 NFL championships, including two in the Super Bowl era, but I haven't heard his name mentioned in the discussion of all-time greatest quarterbacks over the last couple of weeks. Is he being penalized because three of his championships came in the pre-Super Bowl era? That would be like discounting Joe DiMaggio's or Sandy Koufax's World Series triumphs because they all came in the pre-playoff era. There was pro football before Joe Montana, pro boxing before Mike Tyson and pro basketball before Michael Jordan, despite what today's sports pundits would have you believe. I'm too young to remember seeing a live Packers game during their glory years, but that's what ESPN Classic and Pro-Football-Reference.com are for. Besides being a three-time All-Pro, Starr was a two-time Super Bowl MVP and might have been a three, four or five-time MVP if his entire career had been played in the Super Bowl era. Is there a more underrated quarterback in NFL history than Starr?
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:44 pm to trackfan
it was such a different game then its tough to compare
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:44 pm to trackfan
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Is he being penalized because three of his championships came in the pre-Super Bowl era?
Probably.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:51 pm to trackfan
No because he was the ultimate game manager, the original Russell Wilson. A lot of QBs would have looked good with Lombardi as their HC.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:51 pm to trackfan
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There was pro football before Joe Montana, pro boxing before Mike Tyson and pro basketball before Michael Jordan, despite what today's sports pundits would have you believe.
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Posted on 2/2/15 at 9:56 pm to trackfan
Different era and all that, but his 152/138 career TD/INT ratio probably has something to do with it as well. Those Packer offenses were built around Jim Taylor and Paul Horning and they really only threw when necessary. Nothing wrong with that since it worked for them, but that's one reason why Starr doesn't get mentioned in this conversation.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:19 pm to trackfan
In any objectively measured event (track and field/swimming, etc.), the times of today absolutely dwarf those from 50 years ago. How people can still compare athletes from those eras today is nonsensical.
Posted on 2/2/15 at 10:41 pm to trackfan
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The multiple Super Bowl winner picked 200th in his draft, Bart Starr, had a role in the discovery of the multiple Super Bowl winner picked 199th in his, Tom Brady. As head coach of the same Green Bay Packers he once quarterbacked to greatness, Starr was the one who decided that a small-college lineman he had cut from his roster, Dick Rehbein, would make for a heck of an assistant.
Rehbein was the one who decided more than two decades later that Brady would make for a heck of a New England Patriot.
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Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:15 pm to trackfan
The media has a very short memory
Posted on 2/2/15 at 11:32 pm to trackfan
Bart Starr didn't play against black people.
Seriously though, he had it easy. Have you ever watched an old football game. It's almost comical how slow the game was.
Seriously though, he had it easy. Have you ever watched an old football game. It's almost comical how slow the game was.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 11:55 am to trackfan
Bart Starr played in an era that predated weight training. He doesn't belong in the same conversation with Ryan Leaf, much less Tom Brady.
Posted on 2/3/15 at 5:21 pm to trackfan
I got his autograph at a baseball card show at pont center in kenner
Posted on 2/3/15 at 9:09 pm to trackfan
Well, even in Bart Starr's heyday (I was there) nobody considered him the greatest quarterback of all time... because he wasn't.
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