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The USN is considering letting women into BUD/S training.. Really?
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:39 pm
Why are they spending more than one second on this decision?
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Put bluntly, the shite you have to do in training and as a SEAL is nearly impossible. I can't give you specifics, but trust me ladies, think of the most hellish situation you can imagine, then double it, triple it—hell, times it by 100. It's that physically brutal.
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My fear is that the standards would drop to allow for a higher graduation rate and that is not what the SEAL teams are about. BUD/S is about producing the best warriors on the planet—they don’t lower the standards for anyone. It might not be PC to say, but there would be no other way to graduate enough women to justify the expense of new facilities without lowering the standards. And lower standards would lead to utter disaster.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:40 pm to belowmebama
Some crazy butch will sue to get in and then roll out within a week.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:41 pm to LSUAlum2001
It will turn out worse than letting women into Infantry Officers Course for the Marines. 0% pass rate. But whatever, let the crossfit chicks get their shot, I guess.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:43 pm to LSUAlum2001
Just like the Army's decision to allow them to try Ranger school. They know they'll wash out early and even the best won't last more than the first week or so. Nothing to lose really, women can't hack it but at least the Navy can say they gave them the opportunity.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:43 pm to LSUAlum2001
I actually think having women on Subs is worse than letting them into the Seals, if they can make it in the Seals, let them have it. But don't take a 150 man crew with 2 bathrooms and limited bunks and cut it down to 1 bathroom because of 1 or 2 females.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:44 pm to LSUAlum2001
Qualified female candidates can now apply for the Ranger Course.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:46 pm to LSUAlum2001
Well according to the OT getting thru BUDS isn't a big deal
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:46 pm to LSUAlum2001
I'm sure some could do it, calm down.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:47 pm to Hurricane Mike
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But don't take a 150 man crew with 2 bathrooms and limited bunks and cut it down to 1 bathroom because of 1 or 2 females.
Mother effing this!!!!!
Posted on 1/30/15 at 9:56 pm to jimbeam
Figured it was only a matter of time. I truly doubt any tons of ladies get through it. I just hope they don't change a thing about the training and if a girl actually makes it through then so be it
Posted on 1/30/15 at 10:00 pm to Fat and Happy
The instructors just want to be able to spray them down with the hose
Posted on 1/30/15 at 10:00 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Men walk around naked, change on the go. They would need to build separate facilities to avoid situations that could offend and put people in compromising positions.
Any woman or man hardcore enough to pass BUD/S wouldn't suddenly go weak-kneed over stuff like that.
If a woman can pass the physical standards, fine. If she can't, fine. But it's pretty odd to assume that someone dedicated to fitness to an extreme degree just can't control him or herself around the other sex.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 10:03 pm to foshizzle
Especially when you're mentally and physically exhausted...pushed beyond the point a normal person should endure. When you're working on four total hours of sleep in a week, I'm sure sex is the last thing on your mind.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 10:11 pm to meeple
Was about to say this was a movie in the 90's.
I would be surprised if a female could make it past Indoc much less a few days at BUD/S.
I would be surprised if a female could make it past Indoc much less a few days at BUD/S.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 10:18 pm to blzr
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I'm sure some could do it, calm down.
Women have a different physical make up than men. For starters, their muscle structure means they naturally lack the same amount of upper body strength than men. I can't speak for the SEALs or their BUDs training but I do know armor. Here's a good example of why women should never be allowed in a tank.....
Loading the main gun on an Abrams.
The minimum standard is to be able to reload the 120mm gun in 4 seconds or less. A loader will have to be able to keep this pace up for as long as the tank is in contact with the enemy. Each round weighs just under 50 lbs. In addition to this, the loader is responsible for maintaining the main gun which requires them to be able to manhandle the breach block. To do this they have to be able to remove and manipulate the breechblock in the confined space of the turret. The weight of the breech is well over 100 lbs.
And if they can't hack it in a Abrams, I'm quite certain they could not hack BUDS.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 10:19 pm to LSUAlum2001
As long as they don't lower the standards I have no issue with this.
I knew more then one seal and quite a few who rang that bell.
It is not for the weak of heart and it's never the muscle bound guys who get through buds.
I knew more then one seal and quite a few who rang that bell.
It is not for the weak of heart and it's never the muscle bound guys who get through buds.
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