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re: Metal roof question
Posted on 1/29/15 at 6:57 pm to Cashmoney99
Posted on 1/29/15 at 6:57 pm to Cashmoney99
About $450/Square for 24 gauge concealed fasteners, and high quality color (Kynar or similar.). Installed.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:08 pm to VetteGuy
Standing seam is not the same as screw down metal roofing. Standing seam is a hundred year roof. I 'am not a roofer and don't know how it is fastened, but there are no holes in the metal. My house had a small section that called for standing seam but it was going to cost about nine grand so I just went with seal tab.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:12 pm to TIGER2
Yes, I understand.
If I was going to do a metal roof again (which I won't), it would be standing seam.
Given its significant expense over a shingle roof, I don't undersstand the attraction.
If I was going to do a metal roof again (which I won't), it would be standing seam.
Given its significant expense over a shingle roof, I don't undersstand the attraction.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:24 pm to Cashmoney99
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That sucks. Bad installation? Or is it common
Very common, they swell and contract with the weather and notorious for leaks. There are high end here builders who refuse to install them.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:28 pm to Cashmoney99
I built in 2013 and went with a Galvalume metal roof.My house is a farmhouse style with 12 on 12 and it breaks to 6 on 12. I have 4603 sqft under roof and it cost 15800 for the complete job.The guy that did mine has been metal working for 30 years and did a great job.He used ZAK screws which have a metal hood over the gasket so it doesnt see sun or rain.My roof is decked with 7/16 OSB for strength.I went with a synthetic felt and put 2x4 lathing on it.It came out dang good and I would do it again.I never priced shingles so not sure how it compares that way.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:42 pm to Cashmoney99
If you go metal, standing seam is 10 times better than an R panel for the life of the roof. A standing seam roof system properly installed, will never leak.
I don't understand why someone would put a metal roof on a house over shingles other than simple aesthetics. I am in the commercial industry and build several PEBs a year. We push standing seam panels over R panels every day of the week. The increase of cost on the roof is offset numerous times over after recognizing the savings by changing from a convential steel building to a PEB.
I don't understand why someone would put a metal roof on a house over shingles other than simple aesthetics. I am in the commercial industry and build several PEBs a year. We push standing seam panels over R panels every day of the week. The increase of cost on the roof is offset numerous times over after recognizing the savings by changing from a convential steel building to a PEB.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 7:54 pm to 4LSU2
Berridge Double Lock
This is probably the best on the market but not a cheap roof.
I have a copper standing seam on a large portion of my house and 30 yr shingles on the rest. They all leak at some point because they all have penetrations or base flashings that eventually break down. The standing seam will last longer but it by no means is a lifetime roof. It's a 30-40 roof but any roof is only good if it is maintained.
This is probably the best on the market but not a cheap roof.
I have a copper standing seam on a large portion of my house and 30 yr shingles on the rest. They all leak at some point because they all have penetrations or base flashings that eventually break down. The standing seam will last longer but it by no means is a lifetime roof. It's a 30-40 roof but any roof is only good if it is maintained.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:01 pm to Martini
I've done many Berridge double locks on buildings that have a low slope. We did 20,000 SF of a 1:12 a few months ago.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:04 pm to 4LSU2
You're in the roofing business on the Northshore or a general?
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:36 pm to Cashmoney99
Also, no one has mentioned, I've seen metal roofs leak in valleys where they tie into another roof if it's a real heavy rain and wind. The way they lap shingles the same roof would be no issue.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 8:57 pm to 4LSU2
McMath?
And I watched a new construction on a house today nail shingles with zero flashing so shingles leak too.
And I watched a new construction on a house today nail shingles with zero flashing so shingles leak too.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:07 pm to Martini
No, not McMath. I don't even know what Don has going on right now on the north shore besides the debacle that is the new Crime Lab.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:11 pm to VetteGuy
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A good quality architectural shingle roof will last 20-25 years.
Other than going for a specific look, I have no idea why people buy standing seam.
I think there are lot of people (myself included) who will question that much longevity from a paper roof (shingles).
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:15 pm to pdubya76
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I built in 2013 and went with a Galvalume metal roof.My house is a farmhouse style with 12 on 12 and it breaks to 6 on 12. I have 4603 sqft under roof and it cost 15800 for the complete job.The guy that did mine has been metal working for 30 years and did a great job.He used ZAK screws which have a metal hood over the gasket so it doesnt see sun or rain.My roof is decked with 7/16 OSB for strength.I went with a synthetic felt and put 2x4 lathing on it.It came out dang good and I would do it again.I never priced shingles so not sure how it compares that way.
Hooded screws are a great solution for a panel roof. I agree that exposed washers on the standard fasteners are a weak point for metal roof installation.
Standing seam is the ultimate system but can be a deal breaker for a residential application due to cost.
There really is no such thing as a "lifetime" roof but a standing seam metal with a good finish on it comes close.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:37 pm to AndyCBR
A premium 3D shingle will do that fairly easily.
Obviously, YMMV, but you can shingle a roof several times for the cost of standing seam.
Obviously, YMMV, but you can shingle a roof several times for the cost of standing seam.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:43 pm to VetteGuy
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A premium 3D shingle will do that fairly easily.
Obviously, YMMV, but you can shingle a roof several times for the cost of standing seam.
I hear what you are saying but in practice what I see from most architectural shingles in BR is life in the high teens, 20 max.
That's not to say there haven't been some that make it longer but IMHO that is the exception not the rule. Additionally, the 25 year one will likely have some performance issues for several years before a replacement is forced (nail pops, broken tabs, leaks at ridge caps, etc.).
The storm history in the BR area has been a significant factor though. Even roofs that didn't require replacement have seen some severe conditions for the last decade or so.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:46 pm to AndyCBR
Yeah, I agree re: the storm damage.
I was assuming no weather issues, trees, etc.
I've just had great luck with shingles and piss-poor luck with metal.
I was assuming no weather issues, trees, etc.
I've just had great luck with shingles and piss-poor luck with metal.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:52 pm to VetteGuy
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Yeah, I agree re: the storm damage.
I was assuming no weather issues, trees, etc.
I've just had great luck with shingles and piss-poor luck with metal.
I agree with your sentiment that for 99% of people shingles are the way to go. Besides if your building in a subdivision metal is usually not an option nowadays.
This also depends on how cut up the roof is. Even the best metal guy will have challenges with multiple valleys/gables/knee walls, etc.
But if you had a raised acadian on private land and you wanted the ultimate roof that could last the rest of your life a standing seam metal might do it.
Posted on 1/29/15 at 9:55 pm to Martini
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I have a copper standing seam on a large portion
Very nice, I love copper in residential construction...
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