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re: The case against Travel Ball by Dr. James Andrews

Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by VetteGuy
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:01 pm to
Fielder?

Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:01 pm to
These travel ball parents need to realize if their kid has it he has it. Practicing hard is important, but the sheer amount they do is ridiculous. They should go look at LSUs national champ team of 2009. 8 of those players on that team played High School QB. They were well rounded freak athletes that played more than one sport. Hell, most mlb players were studs on their high school football and Basketball teams as well. The only sports that truly take 100% focus to go D1 are tennis and golf. The rest are usually the athletes that played multiple sports in high school
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:19 pm to
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wanna take a guess as to how many D1 baseball players played travel ball?


... All of them?


ETA: Perhaps we should qualify "travel baseball." Are you talking traveling every single weekend during the summer to somewhere else? Because I didn't do that shite. Cost too much money to play for the Midwest Prospects.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 1:21 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:20 pm to
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15 years of playing ball himself, along with another 15 years of watching one of his brothers play ball, and his youngest brother is currently playing ball.


Travel ball started getting big around 2000. There wasn't any travel ball back in the 80-early 90's when I played ball.

Posted by AUjim
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:23 pm to
How many d1 guys played travel ball isn't the point. Its almost like saying how many d1 guys played high school ball.

The point is how many travel ball guys don't play college ball.
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:44 pm to
Kids that focus on one sport from a young age usually aren't very good athletes in my experience
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:48 pm to
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Kids that focus on one sport from a young age usually aren't very good athletes in my experience



In my experience the reason why they focus only on one sport at a young is because they aren't a very good athlete.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:49 pm to
Exactly
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:50 pm to
excatly
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:53 pm to
I am 5 foot 10 and pretty damn slow. The wife is 5 foot 5. If one of my kid has an athletic future anywhere, it may be golf...where physical gifts can be worked around.

I would love to find a travel ball team for them to play on that had fun and just insured they didn't have to play with jackasses in rec leagues. The kinda league where they let you barbeque in the park and bring some beer. but lets face it, they will never out train their bad genetics. Sorry boys, just the hand you were dealt.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 1:55 pm to
Damn man, I never made the connection
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:05 pm to
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Practicing hard is important, but the sheer amount they do is ridiculous.


Could not be further from the truth with baseball.

Give me a kid who eats, sleeps and breathes baseball and he'll smoke 90% of the 'athletes' on the field.

Baseball is skills-heavy. And skills are developed.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:13 pm to
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Give me a kid who eats, sleeps and breathes baseball and he'll smoke 90% of the 'athletes' on the field.


that'll only get you so far, most of it is natural talent, I played all the big sports in HS, a couple of years of baseball at LSU, and a couple in semi -pro, the most games we played in HS and Legion combined was less than 40/year, obviously no fall ball and missed baseball practice for spring football practice until senior year, played in games with little to no practice
Posted by mt1
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:14 pm to
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Y'all ain't heard of the Monarch's?


Out of this whole thread, this comment made me laugh. My son's team has played them numerous times.

I guess we are lucky. My son has a great group of coaches who have the right attitude. The coach told me the first year that he was all about the baseball, not so much the travel. Most of our games are played in the greater NO area. Almost all of the kids on the team play other sports so our season only last about 5 months.

My son doesn't really play video games and loves sports. We also don't have any kids his age on our block. Playing at the playground and on his soccer/baseball teams is one of the few ways he can interact with other kids outside of school. It also helps that his travel baseball team has a good group of parents.
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:26 pm to
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These travel ball parents need to realize if their kid has it he has it. Practicing hard is important, but the sheer amount they do is ridiculous. They should go look at LSUs national champ team of 2009. 8 of those players on that team played High School QB. They were well rounded freak athletes that played more than one sport. Hell, most mlb players were studs on their high school football and Basketball teams as well. The only sports that truly take 100% focus to go D1 are tennis and golf. The rest are usually the athletes that played multiple sports in high school


This is not necessarily true. There a lot of elite athletes playing other sports. Baseball requires development of certain skill sets. No matter how much a kid "has it", he still needs to develop skill sets. Travel ball is an excellent way to do this by being exposed to good coaching and playing against other skilled players. The overwhelming amount of kids who play travel ball, also play other sports. Once the kid reaches high school age, it is difficult to play more than 2 sports, especially in the higher classifications. The ONLY true potential downside to travel ball are those kids who throw too much due to over zealous parents/coaches.
Posted by BigEdLSU
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:34 pm to
specialization is insane imo. However, my son normally is involved with something organized year-round.
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:38 pm to
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specialization is insane imo. However, my son normally is involved with something organized year-round.


depends on the age. I agree with you for grade school, but high school presents other challenges.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:41 pm to
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but high school presents other challenges.



like what? Most high school kids I know (the really good athletes) are playing 2 if not 3 sports.
Posted by Stevo
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Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:46 pm to
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like what? Most high school kids I know (the really good athletes) are playing 2 if not 3 sports.


like scheduling conflicts. If your kid is a 5A basketball player, it is not easy to play football and baseball because of overlapping seasons. Also, most kids playing 5A basketball play AAU summer ball, which means they're not playing summer baseball or 7 ond 7 football. It's not an absolute, but playing 3 sports in high school is way more difficult than in grade school.
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