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re: who once said they'd trade Biyombo for Ryno?

Posted on 5/23/16 at 9:13 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 9:13 am to
Predict his numbers for next year
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 9:25 am to
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Predict his numbers for next year



$2,940,630

Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28750 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:36 am to
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So performing on the highest stage at a high level is a fluke? Lmaoo put some respek on his name pleighboi.



Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:48 am to
Reggie Evans was never had the instincts on defense that Biyombo has.

I mean is Dwight Howard Reggie Evans on steroids? Just a more athletic and bigger version.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279533 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:18 am to
yea, such a great defensive player.

can only muster 22mpg.


got to love recency bias. Which is silly considering he is only averaging 6 and 9 in the playoffs, even after a monster 26 rebound game.

And silly considering he was terrible in the 1st 2 games of the ECF. Stop acting like this is ben wallace reincarnated
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:29 am to
I'm not saying he's a stud but he's better than Reggie Evans 2.0. He's also behind Jonas which has something to do with his minutes. He's not a "difference maker" but he has potential to still be something. It takes most big men 3-4 years to develop in the NBA.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279533 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:35 am to
I don't dislike him but he's still "just a guy". He's just so happened to have a few decent games when everyone is watching Against a terrible Miami front court.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
26057 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:36 am to
Biyombo isn't some great center. He's barely a starting center in the NBA, if even that.

But we don't need some all-nba center on this team, b/c we already have an all-nba center on our team.
What we need is a cheap guy that will hustle, grab boards, protect the rim, and finish for 15-20 minutes a game. 8 and 8 is a decent game if you ask me. Problem is 8 and 8 isn't decent when you make $11 million a year, you don't hustle, you don't protect the rim, and you finish at a historically low rate.

Biyombo was one of the guys I was saying to get last year, but for whatever reason financially we couldn't aquire his <$3M contract, and it was better to tie ourselves to Asik for $11 million a year for 4 years, b/c that was better than Ajinca and nothing, which is what we had this year.

I don't know how a year of Withey couldn't have been a better option than long term Asik.

From an article in January:

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The Pelicans faded this possibility in letting Withey go, and they quickly look to be on the losing side of that proposition. Withey has stepped admirably into a void filled by injuries to Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors, posting a career-best 19 PER in by far the largest role he’s been asked to play. He’s shooting nearly 56 percent from the field and blocking over three shots per-36-minutes on the floor, a badly needed continuation of the rim protection provided by Gobert and Favors that serves as the foundation of Utah’s defense. “It just took a chance for me to get on the floor,” Withey told Basketball Insiders. “Even in New Orleans, whenever I had a chance to play, I was able to put up decent numbers. So it was just a matter of being on the floor.”


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part from his raw numbers, which are impressive on their own, Withey’s largest impact has been as a rim protector in Gobert’s absence. He’s allowing a hair under 40 percent while contesting opponent shots at the rim, per SportVU data, one of just three qualified players in the league doing so – the others are Gobert himself and Serge Ibaka. Per more advanced figures from Nylon Calculus, Withey is “saving” the fourth-most points in the NBA for his team on a per-minute basis when factoring in positional context – he prevents an estimated 7.7 points at the rim per-36 compared to the league average center.


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“He’s always been a shot blocker,” Snyder said. “We don’t need him to be a low-post offensive scorer, but if he can finish the way he has and make free throws, that’s the main thing.”


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“In New Orleans, it was a tough place for me, just because the coach [Monty Williams], he didn’t really give me a shot, you know what I mean? Even if I was playing, if I screwed up one time or anything like that, he would just take me right out. Here, Coach [Snyder], he’ll come to you… it’s just a different type of coaching. More player-friendly, for sure.”
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:40 am to
I don't disagree with any of that but that isn't what this thread was about
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
26057 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 11:48 am to
So this isn't an Asik Sucks thread?
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
1898 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 12:01 pm to
That just goes without saying at this point.

No need to waste bandwidth on something everyone already knows.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425871 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 8:10 pm to
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yea, such a great defensive player.

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got to love recency bias.


from his ESPN scouting report:
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He blocked 6.3 percent of opponents' 2-point attempts last season, good for fourth among players who saw at least 500 minutes of action. While opponents shot decently at the rim against Biyombo last season (49.1 percent, per SportVU tracking on NBA.com/Stats), he was the league's best rim protector the season before.


Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279533 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 8:27 pm to
Why don't you think he plays more?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425871 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 8:51 pm to
he makes asik look efficient on offense

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Alas, that same agility doesn't seem to translate on offense. Biyombo's footwork is poor on the pick-and-roll and he has a tough time catching the ball on the move -- sometimes even when he's stationary. Add to that Biyombo's limited range (he shot 11-of-49, 22.4 percent beyond 3 feet last season per Basketball-Reference.com) and opponents don't have to pay him much attention. About the only way Biyombo can make them pay is with putbacks. His offensive rebound percentage (a career-best 13.7 percent) ranked in the league's top 10.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425871 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 8:54 pm to
let me add, bumping this thread as some sort of a "gotcha" is stupid
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72113 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 8:54 pm to
He played 1072 min the year he was the best rim protector went up every year he played more

Just like john Henson, Jeff withey and ezeli are at the top of FG% at the rim this year. Dudes play less than 1k min

Ftw id love a Biyombo on this team
Posted by chrisharrisbaby
Member since Mar 2014
690 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:03 pm to
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he's a younger, more athletic Reggie Evans



Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10534 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:08 pm to
Who cares about Biyombo. What I want to know is.. How do we land DeRozan.
Posted by chrisharrisbaby
Member since Mar 2014
690 posts
Posted on 5/23/16 at 10:10 pm to
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What I want to know is.. How do we land DeRozan.




By becoming Laker fans.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:56 am to
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becoming Laker fans.


destiny awaits us all.
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