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Question for those who have lost a close relative

Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:14 pm
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2084 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:14 pm
In the sake of full disclosure, I've thankfully never lost a really close relative, but I'm watching this coverage of people wanting other people (e.g. Indonesian Coast Guard) to hang our of helicopters in what can only be described as "dicey" weather to recover the bodies of their dead relatives who sadly perished in the AirAsia jet crash in Indonesia.

Now, I understand they're immeasurably upset, but what is the purpose of recovering the bodies? I have to assume they're only doing it for the sake of the families. When you lost your close family member, did you feel an overwhelming need to see (or be able to confirm the whereabouts of) the body of that relative?

Serious question.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35572 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:16 pm to
Chance there were survivors?


Everyone would like to bury their dead, but I wouldn't want anyone to risk their lives for it
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 7:18 pm
Posted by AthensTiger
Athens, GA
Member since Jul 2008
2977 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

When you lost your close family member, did you feel an overwhelming need to see (or be able to confirm the whereabouts of) the body of that relative?
Lost my dad this year. No.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:25 pm to
I've lost Grandparents,my Dad when he was 56 and I was 28.

I guess people feel a need for closure and maybe they can't get that when they don't know where their loved one is.

I certainly wouldn't want anyone to risk their life to recover a dead relative.

Some cultures may feel the need to have a body to mourn more than ours'.
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
143042 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:29 pm to
As we covered in the recent wake thread, some cultures are more visual/tactile/touchy feely than repressed WASP Americans, and would want the body if only for the reassurance that they have it
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:15 pm to
If someone close to me died in a plane crash or accident, I would want to give their body a proper burial. Seems like common sense to me.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

but what is the purpose of recovering the bodies?
Just to know they weren't eaten by sharks and shyt.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4292 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:21 pm to
How close is close? Is a second cousin close? Is a first cousin close? How about a brother-in-law?
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:43 pm to
Wasn't a "must do" thing for me but I can see how I would want this if they'd been lost in an airplane with the "unknown" still hanging out there.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2978 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

When you lost your close family member, did you feel an overwhelming need to see (or be able to confirm the whereabouts of) the body of that relative?


No overwhelming need to see the body. Just want to know close relative is actually gone
Posted by Isabelle
Member since Jul 2012
2726 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:07 pm to
The day and a half we had to wait to see our son, after he was killed in an accident, seemed like forever. I had to see his body and I had to see his car in the wrecker yard.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56243 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:20 pm to
yes, there is a strong urge to see the loved one that one last time...as unpleasant as it is, seeing them is helpful from a psychological standpoint...

ETA: I can't imagine how difficult it would be to just get a message that a loved one in the military was missing in action
This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35721 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:29 pm to
How many days until you are comfortable rubbing one out without feeling like they are looking down on you with disgust?
Posted by Matrixman
Texas
Member since Apr 2010
719 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

Now, I understand they're immeasurably upset, but what is the purpose of recovering the bodies? I have to assume they're only doing it for the sake of the families.


Sorry but you can't be serious. I don't understand your logic when you question the recovery effort of the victims. Certainly the recovery teams are doing it for the families of the victims. Additionally, in airplane crashes such as AirAsia recovering the victims helps to determine what happened. The condition of the bodies, the location where the victims were sitting in the aircraft relative to the damage done to the aircraft help to solve the mystery of a crash. You have to find out what happened so that preventive measures can be taken in the future to prevent another tragic accident.

When you lose a close relative in a violent death such as this tragic AirAsia jet crash you want their remains recovered, no matter the condition of the body or the effort required to recover the remains. It's only natural for a family to want their deceased loved one returned. Remember, when it comes to surviving the devestating loss of a loved one recovering the remains is very important because it helps with the closure. True, the pain of the loss never goes away, but having the remains [even if the casket cannot be opened] is crucial when dealing with the loss. At least that was the case in the loss experienced by our family.



This post was edited on 12/30/14 at 10:45 pm
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:02 pm to
I would think the biggest thing would be knowing the status and cause more than having an actual body per se etc.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63875 posts
Posted on 12/30/14 at 11:17 pm to
I couldn't imagine a loved one's body, such as my wife, just left exposed to the elements. I'd want it recovered if at all possible.
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:25 am to


This post was edited on 12/20/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 12:41 am to
Everyone has different beliefs when it comes to the flesh and blood and the afterlife so I won't begin to start to judge someone on their beliefs. I will give my thoughts and my thinking. I just recently lost an uncle in his late 40s.. I was named after him. He died from complications from partying throughout life. It killed me when he died and I wanted him to be mourned and respected up to par with everyone else, Never wanting someone to possible danger themselves over something that is just going to be worm food and eventually turn to worm dirt


It would be cool if my Unc is out chilling with so cool God but that isn't what ive been able to believer
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