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Chlorine Leak at Olin St Gabriel - 3 Hospitalized

Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted by TowBoat
Member since Nov 2012
11 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 4:57 pm
WBRZ - 3 Hospitalized

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ST. GABRIEL - Representatives from Olin Chlor Alkali confirmed an early morning leak of chlorine gas from a product storage tank at the company's St. Gabriel facility.


Shits nothing to play with
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:03 pm to
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Shits nothing to play with


Judging from the picture in that article, they weren't playing around. When they leak some chlorine, they go big.

EDIT: Damn. I was trying to snag the picture and they changed the picture from a giant cloud of chlorine in the air to a picture of the front sign of the plant.

EDIT OF THE EDIT: Nevermind. I was thinking of the picture on WAFB., which is still there right now.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 5:08 pm
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7856 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:18 pm to
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Chlorine Leak at Olin St Gabriel - 3 Hospitalized

quote:

Shits nothing to play with


No it is not. 20 years ago I was working for Vulcan Chemicals in Geismar and we had a chlorine unit. That stuff is brutal in pure vapor form. Two or three breaths of that crap in high concentration and you're in a bind. Hope they will be alright. That gas can chemically "burn" your lungs causing permanant damage.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57535 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:22 pm to
nm, just saw the picture. That must be an enormous amount
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 5:23 pm
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47155 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:29 pm to
3?

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30 about to get paid


FIFY
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23686 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:36 pm to
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Chlorine required a concentration of 1,000 parts per million to be fatal, destroying tissue in the lungs, likely through the formation of hydrochloric (muriatic) acid when dissolved in the water in the lungs (2Cl2 + 2H2O ? 4HCl + O2).
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101727 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:37 pm to
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the picture.


Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
4958 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 5:44 pm to
that's a lot of chlorine
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21345 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:33 pm to
One of the injured was my nieces bf.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21330 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 6:34 pm to
Damn.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5981 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:49 pm to
I worked there when it was Pioneer in the mid 90's. you have to have an escape respirator with you at all times for that very reason. All the piping is fiberglass because the salt and caustic eat everything up that's metal.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:53 pm to
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caustic eat everything up that's metal.


caustic soda wont eat metal or steel nor is a a gaseous product....just saying
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
5981 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:47 pm to
I guess it was because of the salt then. Im no chemist but i believe their process is started with salt/ brine.The chlorine was the gas and the caustic was more like a dish washing soap. It was bad shite if you got it on you.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:52 pm to
yes, salt will frick shite up

so will caustic, but caustic wont eat metal, and yes you're right, caustic is just like a dish washing soap. it will eat straight through your skin. We would have to wear thick rubber gloves when we used to use it because it would eat straight through leather gloves.
Posted by east upper deck
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
186 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:03 pm to
Caustic at normal temperature will not corrode carbon steel. As you increase the concentration and temperature it will severely corrode carbon steel, stainless, and many more. Olin is probably evaporating up to 50% caustic and getting up to 300+ degrees which would coorode any common metal, that equipment will be all nickel.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14079 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:09 pm to
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caustic soda wont eat metal or steel nor is a a gaseous product....just saying


Lol aluminum says hi!

And yes it does eat metal, stainless and nickel are the metals we use in that service. My unit makes 99% caustic at 650 degrees. It sucks...

And yes, chlorine and caustic are made from a saturated brine solution broken down with quite a bit of DC current. Hydrogen is a by product ad well. Neat process. I got hit a few years ago real bad with chlorine after a seal pot near me blew apart. It was pretty miserable. Poor people.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7856 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

caustic soda wont eat metal or steel nor is a a gaseous product....just saying


Wrong - Caustic soda in all forms is extremely corrosive to carbon steel. That why caustic units are made primarily of alloy metals, most being exotics such as hasteloy, or of PTFE lined pipe.

Wrong again - When anhydrous chlorine is released into an O2 environment (released) it vaporizes leaving a huge plume of gas. Anhydrous chlorine boiling point is -34C. That when it turns to gas from liquid at atmospheric pressure. So in Louisiana thats anyday of the year.

I worked in a Chlorine unit at Vulcan Chem for five years in Geismar. It aint a good place to be thats why I have this gravy job now.

Caustic Soda Data Sheet

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:46 pm to
ok, well the steel barges and steel rail cars that we transport the caustic soda in says hi.
Posted by pochejp
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2007
7856 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

ok, well the steel barges and steel rail cars that we transport the caustic soda in says hi.


They're lined tanks dude. Lined with PTFE or rubber.
Posted by east upper deck
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
186 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:00 pm to
50% Caustic (or less) at ambient temperature (<100F) will not corrode carbon steel.
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