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Who is the best defender, AD, Jrue, or Asik?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:35 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:35 am
So, here's a hypothetical question. If the game had no offensive component...... Let's say we play NBA teams with the only goal being to minimize their scoring over 100 possessions. Who do you take? Additionally, where do you rank each player in their respective position?
Right now, I'm going Asik, AD, and then Jrue.
Asik- 5th best center behind Hibbert, Howard, Marc, and Noah
Davis- 1st power forward(unless Duncan counts) Millsaps, Ibaka, and Gibson close
Jrue- probably about 8th. Hard to rank. He's not as quick as the elite guys but he's got great size. Much like his offense, he's just very solid, smooth and seems like he has no weaknesses. But a bit of fool's gold in that he is just not a playmaker.
What do y'all think? Surely I am ranking one of these too high. I don't want to appease Boom(he's often a total clown), but why is our defense not better if these guys are as good as I think?
But on the other hand, everybody(including Vegas), expected us to not improve tremendously despite adding Asik(an unquestionably elite defender) and the obvious improvement of AD. Does that point to it being Monty never being able to coach an elite D regardless of personel? Was Aminu that important?
With even a scrub like Aminu on the team, the sum of the parts should be a top 5 D with Indiana, Chicago and Memphis.
Right now, I'm going Asik, AD, and then Jrue.
Asik- 5th best center behind Hibbert, Howard, Marc, and Noah
Davis- 1st power forward(unless Duncan counts) Millsaps, Ibaka, and Gibson close
Jrue- probably about 8th. Hard to rank. He's not as quick as the elite guys but he's got great size. Much like his offense, he's just very solid, smooth and seems like he has no weaknesses. But a bit of fool's gold in that he is just not a playmaker.
What do y'all think? Surely I am ranking one of these too high. I don't want to appease Boom(he's often a total clown), but why is our defense not better if these guys are as good as I think?
But on the other hand, everybody(including Vegas), expected us to not improve tremendously despite adding Asik(an unquestionably elite defender) and the obvious improvement of AD. Does that point to it being Monty never being able to coach an elite D regardless of personel? Was Aminu that important?
With even a scrub like Aminu on the team, the sum of the parts should be a top 5 D with Indiana, Chicago and Memphis.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:42 am to TheSexecutioner
I think Jrue is a pretty damn good defender.
I'd say Asik then Jrue then AD.
I'd say Asik then Jrue then AD.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:45 am to TheSexecutioner
This team has a shite ton of missed rotations. Also we are missing another Perimeter defender. Jrue can guard one but Reke has been average to below average as a defender. I think Gordon coming back will help the defense a lot. he was playing really solid D before the injury.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:52 am to TheSexecutioner
holiday defends his position, and makes a greater contribution to team defense, than the other two, by my eye test. the GSW game sunday might have been his finest hour so far, even though thompson & curry still went off
i have no idea what the advanced stats say
i have no idea what the advanced stats say
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:20 pm to TheSexecutioner
Asik, then Idk it's a tossup between the 2 others both have their flaws.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:46 pm to TheSexecutioner
Asik by far. Then Davis, then Holiday.
Davis makes more mistakes, but as a big man he brings so much more value defensively than Holiday.
Davis makes more mistakes, but as a big man he brings so much more value defensively than Holiday.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:37 pm to TheSexecutioner
AD is, right now, the best defender on the team...and it's not close. Asik is a rim defender and does a great job at it, but he does not affect the game the AD does. We see the stats with the rebounds and blocks; what we don't see is how times AD forces the other team to alter their defense and shots because he's on the floor. This is something that Holiday and Asik don't bring to the table. There been very few guys play this game who could do what AD does almost on a nightly basis.
The hypothetical has too many missing pieces to really argue definitively one way or the other but I'm still going with AD.
The hypothetical has too many missing pieces to really argue definitively one way or the other but I'm still going with AD.
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