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re: Drug raid in rural Georgia ends in a homeowner dead, no drugs found...
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:22 pm to Andre
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:22 pm to Andre
No knock warrants need to be examined again. This happens all too often. I know there is a heightened standard one must show to get a no knock warrant, but the whole "impartial magistrate" idea has gone out the window. No knock warrants have their time and place, but a mere suspicion of drugs is not one of them.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:23 pm to PuntBamaPunt
According to the family attorney, the warrant was NOT a no knock warrant.
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Hooks family attorney Mitchell Shook said that even though the warrant was not a no-knock warrant, the Laurens County SWAT team did not announce its presence, but just broke down the back door of the residence.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:26 pm to MSMHater
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Maybe "these pigs" shouldn't violently invade the home of innocent people. God forbid an innocent man desire to protect his family with his 2nd amendment right.
I don't know if the guy was innocent or not, lots of drug dealers don't keep drugs at their homes, but I am against no-knock warrants unless they its a VERY extreme case. It would be so much easier to follow the dude to a gas station or something and get him when he isn't expecting it, its shameful that they don't do that and instead bust into homes where kids and families are.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:28 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
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Hooks family attorney Mitchell Shook said that even though the warrant was not a no-knock warrant, the Laurens County SWAT team did not announce its presence, but just broke down the back door of the residence.
Thats just semantics, even IF they had announced. Yelling "sheriffs department" and then busting down the door 2-3 seconds later is the same as a no-knock to me.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:29 pm to Speedy G
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I would be comfortable with them being declared outright unconstitutional (except in a hostage type situation), but there should at least be a very strict framework of guidelines.
This. Unless a persons life is in immediate danger, why go in? If the person is a drug dealer, that could be proven without charging in and getting "dope on the table."
All a no knock warrant does is raise the potential for violence.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:32 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
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the warrant was NOT a no knock warrant.
If that's the case, the police officer in charge might see jail time.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:33 pm to LSU0358
That was according to the family lawyer, the cops are going to say they announced themselves and you know who the court will believe.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:34 pm to lsu480
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Yelling "sheriffs department" and then busting down the door 2-3 seconds later is the same
Anybody can do this. Even criminals looking to make a score and impersonate cops do so.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:37 pm to Sentrius
When I saw the title of this thread, I was thinking of "Here is another one of those threads that scream COPS SUCK for no real reason".
After reading all I can find online about this story...... I have never said this before but,
COPS SUCK.
That is a terrible witness to base a search warrant on.
After reading all I can find online about this story...... I have never said this before but,
COPS SUCK.
That is a terrible witness to base a search warrant on.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:38 pm to Sentrius
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Anybody can do this. Even criminals looking to make a score and impersonate cops do so.
Yep. Makes a lot more sense to do a car stop. The number of people in the car is obvious and the officers have everyone in one spot.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:39 pm to Sentrius
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Anybody can do this. Even criminals looking to make a score and impersonate cops do so.
Exactly, I know 4 guys that got arrested for that.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:44 pm to LSU0358
Laurens County Sheriff Bill Harrell has not released any names of the deputies involved, nor has he granted any interviews about the case that's gaining national attention.
Shook released some findings on the case last week alleging:
Sixteen shell casings were found inside the Hooks home and one outside -- indicating that at least one shot was fired before deputies entered the home.
Shook claims that one officer who took part in the raid posted on social media that "his critics are 'idiots,' and that he is not bothered at all by this event."
Just wanted to include this in the discussion.
Shook released some findings on the case last week alleging:
Sixteen shell casings were found inside the Hooks home and one outside -- indicating that at least one shot was fired before deputies entered the home.
Shook claims that one officer who took part in the raid posted on social media that "his critics are 'idiots,' and that he is not bothered at all by this event."
Just wanted to include this in the discussion.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:47 pm to Dick Leverage
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his critics are 'idiots,' and that he is not bothered at all by this event.
Unfortunately this is the attitude of many police. The public is viewed as the enemy, not an entity that is to be supported/protected.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:48 pm to lsu480
And not a damn bit of video. How in the hell can police break down a door to enter what they believe is a drug dealers home, AND NOT HAVE A VIDEO RECORDING DEVICE?
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:48 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
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And not a damn bit of video. How in the hell can police break down a door to enter what they believe is a drug dealers home, AND NOT HAVE A VIDEO RECORDING DEVICE?
Agreed
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:51 pm to lsu480
The initial report stated the car thief turned himself in to authorities after discovering large amounts of drugs in the wifes stolen auto. That was false. The mother of the car thief called authorities when she realized what her son had done. He was then arrested, and only then did he make the claim of the drugs coming from Davids.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:51 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Don't you know video cameras are expensive? Police departments can't afford that. Never mind they manage to pay for SUV's, assault rifles, bullet proof vests, MRAP maintenance, sniper rifles and (supposedly) training to use all of this military hardware.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:51 pm to lsu480
And then there is this.
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Anonymous videos target David Hooks shooting
Before a crowd of hundreds gathered at Monday's rally supporting justice for David Hooks, an anonymous poster put up two videos on YouTube.
One of those videos was posted overnight and another Monday morning, but both disappeared around 3 p.m.
With no names or faces, the poster claimed to be connected to the group Anonymous, a global group of activists and hackers.
"Greetings to the citizens of Georgia and those planning on attending the David Hooks rally today. We are Anonymous," a masked figure with a computer-generated voice says in the video.
The figure in a Guy Fawkes mask threatens to shut down the Laurens County Sheriff's Department website
if officers threaten or harass protesters at the rally.
It also goes on to name the drug task force agent who applied for the search warrant that led to a drug raid at Hooks' home last month.
"Christopher Brewer was the one who was sending threats to the protesters as well as the man that signed the bogus warrants that led to David Hooks' death. Like we said in our previous video, we will be watching Laurens County Sheriff's Department very closely. We are Anonymous, we are Legion. We do not forgive, we do not forget. Expect us," the video says.
The videos, which have been taken down, linked to a separate site, which listed Brewer's home address, family members, and other personal information like which TV shows he enjoys.
The videos are very similar to ones that surfaced during the protests in Ferguson, Missouri after police there shot and killed an unarmed black teenager in August.
And though protesters are demanding answers from Laurens County Sheriff Bill Harrell, he has continued to decline comment on the case, except to say the Georgia Bureau of Investigation is investigating.
Major Keith Golden with the Sheriff's Department confirms they did see the videos but had no comment about them.
When 13WMAZ reached out to the GBI Wednesday, spokeswoman Sherry Lang said investigators have nothing new to share. We have yet to hear back on what, if anything, the GBI plans to do about those videos.
Follow 13WMAZ's Anita Oh on Twitter @anita_oh.
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Anonymous videos target David Hooks shooting
Before a crowd of hundreds gathered at Monday's rally supporting justice for David Hooks, an anonymous poster put up two videos on YouTube.
One of those videos was posted overnight and another Monday morning, but both disappeared around 3 p.m.
With no names or faces, the poster claimed to be connected to the group Anonymous, a global group of activists and hackers.
"Greetings to the citizens of Georgia and those planning on attending the David Hooks rally today. We are Anonymous," a masked figure with a computer-generated voice says in the video.
The figure in a Guy Fawkes mask threatens to shut down the Laurens County Sheriff's Department website
if officers threaten or harass protesters at the rally.
It also goes on to name the drug task force agent who applied for the search warrant that led to a drug raid at Hooks' home last month.
"Christopher Brewer was the one who was sending threats to the protesters as well as the man that signed the bogus warrants that led to David Hooks' death. Like we said in our previous video, we will be watching Laurens County Sheriff's Department very closely. We are Anonymous, we are Legion. We do not forgive, we do not forget. Expect us," the video says.
The videos, which have been taken down, linked to a separate site, which listed Brewer's home address, family members, and other personal information like which TV shows he enjoys.
The videos are very similar to ones that surfaced during the protests in Ferguson, Missouri after police there shot and killed an unarmed black teenager in August.
And though protesters are demanding answers from Laurens County Sheriff Bill Harrell, he has continued to decline comment on the case, except to say the Georgia Bureau of Investigation is investigating.
Major Keith Golden with the Sheriff's Department confirms they did see the videos but had no comment about them.
When 13WMAZ reached out to the GBI Wednesday, spokeswoman Sherry Lang said investigators have nothing new to share. We have yet to hear back on what, if anything, the GBI plans to do about those videos.
Follow 13WMAZ's Anita Oh on Twitter @anita_oh.
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:52 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
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And not a damn bit of video.
Plausible deniability
Posted on 12/11/14 at 12:58 pm to LSU0358
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Yep. Makes a lot more sense to do a car stop. The number of people in the car is obvious and the officers have everyone in one spot.
That makes to much sense. Instead let's charge into a dark house in the middle of the night when visibility is low. These cops freaking think they are navy seals.
Why in the world if they did think he was a drug dealer couldn't they wait to 8am to bust in when they can actually see what's going on. Or follow the guy and see if he actually deals drugs.
It is sad that this is allowed in this Country. The whole swat mentality of police officers needs to change and only be reserved for violent criminals.
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