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re: The only Coach that seems to develop talent is chavis

Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:21 am to
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:21 am to
So Salmon would you not say that by end of year every year ,under chavis, that the LSU defense has not improved from the beginning of the year? Can you say the same for the LSU offense?
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 10:22 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:21 am to
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Chavis has lost or almost lost a lot of games within the last 2 minutes..
Yeah. I know a lot of you blamed him for the Alabama game when our defense gave up 13 points in regulation... and credited the offense when we beet Ole Miss 10-7.

Shoot, some people on here were complaining about the defense after 1/9.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7184 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:23 am to
I am not high on Miles right now but this is inaccurate.

"Offensive talent especially at QB just never improves "

Lee - improved a TON from his first year.

Mettenberger - improved even more

Beckham & Landry - both improved (especially with Beckham eliminating drops).

Seeing Jefferson stagnate and even regress over 4 years makes it seem like "nobody" improves but many offensive players have.

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:23 am to
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So Salmon you would not say that by end of year every year ,under chavis, that the LSU defense has not improved? Can you say the same for the LSU offense?


yeah the defense has generally improved

and no, I can't say that the offense has improved every year

it improved in 2012 and 2013, but not every year, of course not
Posted by TDTGodfather
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
6169 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:23 am to
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Your Missing the point if LSU had any offense at all then the Defense wouldnt be losing those last minute games. The only reason we were in those game was the defense. That can be said for the last 6 or 7 years.

prayers sent for your head injury which caused you to miss or forget all of last season.

also the 2012 Bama game in tiger stadium was lost by the defense. i'm not saying our offense has been great but to say chavis hasnt had faults is obtuse.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:24 am to
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Your Missing the point if LSU had any offense at all then the Defense wouldnt be losing those last minute games. The only reason we were in those game was the defense.

This does not exactly apply to the following games:

Clemson: 4th and long
UGA: shootout
Bama 2012: Absolute failure to end both halves
Ole Miss 2013: Surrendered a 4th down conversion, and let them march down the field.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 10:25 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162291 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:25 am to
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Landry, Beckham, Hill, Mettenberger...average?

In 2013 certainly not

In 2012? You could argue that the offense underachieved based on the available talent and you'd have a legit argument IMO

All of those studs were sophs and Mett was a junior with a year in the system behind Lee and JJ
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:26 am to
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Clemson: 4th and long UGA: shootout Bama 2012: Absolute failure to end both halves Ole Miss 2013: Surrendered a 4th down conversion, and let them march down the field.


Great sample size.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:29 am to
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Yep, and he's also the one willing to make adjustments. Notice how the defense has improved consistently since the Auburn game.
Almost every year, the defense has been better in game 10 than it was in game 1. This has ESPECIALLY been the case in seasons where we start off rough due to having a lot of new starters.

On offense, I'd say the trend has actually tended to be the opposite. It's as if teams figure us out along the way and then we have no answer.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:31 am to
How would you like to be the DC of a team with LSU's Ofensive scheme
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17900 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:32 am to
WHY ONLY A 1 YEAR EXT for Chavis?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83686 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:32 am to
it would be miserable
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14522 posts
Posted on 11/17/14 at 10:34 am to
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How would you like to be the DC of a team with LSU's Ofensive scheme


Be great 4 or 5 days of golf. Friday night install the 9 man front.Victory !
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 10:36 am
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