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No Vacation Nation
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:37 am
The US is the only developed nation that treats paid time off as a perk.
Edmund McCombs moved to Sydney six years ago — and has no plans to leave. It’s not just the beaches or the cafe-lined harbour that keeps the 33-year-old social sustainability manager Down Under. The Florida native hasn’t left because, well, his boss actually wants him to take vacation and enjoy life outside of work.
McCombs said his supervisor actively tracks vacation days not to make sure he doesn’t take too many, but rather to ensure he has regular breaks. What’s more, there are employees at the property and infrastructure company who are tasked with dreaming up ways to get workers out of the office and enjoying life.
No Vacation Nation
Edmund McCombs moved to Sydney six years ago — and has no plans to leave. It’s not just the beaches or the cafe-lined harbour that keeps the 33-year-old social sustainability manager Down Under. The Florida native hasn’t left because, well, his boss actually wants him to take vacation and enjoy life outside of work.
McCombs said his supervisor actively tracks vacation days not to make sure he doesn’t take too many, but rather to ensure he has regular breaks. What’s more, there are employees at the property and infrastructure company who are tasked with dreaming up ways to get workers out of the office and enjoying life.
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Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:38 am to asurob1
this is one aspect of our system I can't wrap my mind around. Of course, I haven't given it much thought besides "gee, it'd make more sense if we gave more time off".
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:40 am to asurob1
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The US is the only developed nation that treats paid time off as a perk.
In the US you also have the choice to work as much or as little as you want to.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:40 am to asurob1
This only verifies what I just posted on the 70805 thread.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:43 am to asurob1
I agree with you. You become less productive with no breaks. Get burned out.
But there is a balance.
But there is a balance.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:46 am to asurob1
What is a social sustainability manager?
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:50 am to asurob1
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his boss actually wants him to take vacation and enjoy life outside of work
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supervisor actively tracks vacation days not to make sure he doesn’t take too many, but rather to ensure he has regular breaks
quote:Very popular outside of America.
there are employees at the property and infrastructure company who are tasked with dreaming up ways to get workers out of the office and enjoying life
One more, of the millions, of occurrences that I think should be highly encouraged but doesn't need blanket legislation.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:50 am to asurob1
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The US is the only developed nation that treats paid time off as a perk.
Depends on where you work.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 11:59 am to asurob1
Why are dems so work averse?
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:08 pm to asurob1
I think the problem is that Americans as a whole have given in to the idea of taking what they get and not negotiating.
I negotiated my my time off when I came into this job. I work like a dog and have a lot of nights away from my family. I have to work on a Friday night and weekends sometimes and it goes beyond the purview of my job description. So I ask to work from home.
This week I have to be gone Thursday and Friday night. So I negotiated with my boss to get the week of Thanksgiving off, but answering emails.
I have a friend that does PR for a large school district. He negotiated off the months of June and July for less pay.
Stop blaming somebody else for why you aren't happy with your own conditions.
I negotiated my my time off when I came into this job. I work like a dog and have a lot of nights away from my family. I have to work on a Friday night and weekends sometimes and it goes beyond the purview of my job description. So I ask to work from home.
This week I have to be gone Thursday and Friday night. So I negotiated with my boss to get the week of Thanksgiving off, but answering emails.
I have a friend that does PR for a large school district. He negotiated off the months of June and July for less pay.
Stop blaming somebody else for why you aren't happy with your own conditions.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 1:06 pm to asurob1
Vacation is for fricking wimps. Real Americans work 80 hrs/week, never see their children, never retire, and then die.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 1:24 pm to asurob1
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social sustainability manager
Exactly WTF is this?
Posted on 11/9/14 at 1:33 pm to asurob1
I'd like a few more vacation days to visit family out of town. Relax a bit.
If I change jobs in the future, I'll remember to negotiate more vacation days.
If I change jobs in the future, I'll remember to negotiate more vacation days.
This post was edited on 11/9/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 11/9/14 at 1:41 pm to asurob1
I had a job early in my career where the CEO preached that if you wanted to be away from your job for a couple of weeks, he didn't need you. Little bastard always took two weeks for himself.
Choice is a powerful thing. I moved on to an org with a decent salary, decent benefits and retirement, and yes, decent vacation with the amount of vacation days being dependent upon seniority.
That said, there does need to be a balance in things, but all work and no play can make for a burnt out person. Burn out is very hard to come back from.
Choice is a powerful thing. I moved on to an org with a decent salary, decent benefits and retirement, and yes, decent vacation with the amount of vacation days being dependent upon seniority.
That said, there does need to be a balance in things, but all work and no play can make for a burnt out person. Burn out is very hard to come back from.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 2:44 pm to asurob1
Yeah this is one of those times my libertarian views get challenged. If I owned a business, I'd want my employees fresh. I also believe a healthy life outside of work helps people come up with new ideas. One of Steve Job's best ideas came from taking a typography class.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 4:52 pm to asurob1
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The US is the only developed nation that treats paid time off as a perk
And we have higher employment and productivity numbers as a result. There are trade-offs.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 9:43 pm to asurob1
Technology giveth and technology taketh away.
We've never had the European style six weeks in the summer off but we really became the No Vacation Nation once technology made it easier to always be connected.
On the other hand, I get to work from home a whole lot and that's a quality of life chit that was unavailable to me as recently as 10 years ago and is worth a lot more than an extra week off.
And the truth is, the lack of true off time ramps up in accordance with your responsibilities. Wal Mart has relatively generous vacation policies (or at least they did) for their stock crew and they're off the clock when they're off the clock.
Trade offs.
We've never had the European style six weeks in the summer off but we really became the No Vacation Nation once technology made it easier to always be connected.
On the other hand, I get to work from home a whole lot and that's a quality of life chit that was unavailable to me as recently as 10 years ago and is worth a lot more than an extra week off.
And the truth is, the lack of true off time ramps up in accordance with your responsibilities. Wal Mart has relatively generous vacation policies (or at least they did) for their stock crew and they're off the clock when they're off the clock.
Trade offs.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 9:54 pm to asurob1
I get 5 weeks a year. Just went to 9/80 work schedule. Like getting 26 more days.
Not sure how we are the no vacation nation.
After working in France for 3 years, while there is a lot to like about their lifestyle, overall the country doesn't function that well - high unemployment, someone is always on strike, worse segregation and discrimination than in the US, gas cost $6/gal, and the highway costs $100 in tolls to drive from the Mediterranean to Paris (7 hours). I met many a Frenchman who wanted to move to the US.
But the vacations days are plentiful and they all take them at the same time so half the country is shut down in August.
Not sure how we are the no vacation nation.
After working in France for 3 years, while there is a lot to like about their lifestyle, overall the country doesn't function that well - high unemployment, someone is always on strike, worse segregation and discrimination than in the US, gas cost $6/gal, and the highway costs $100 in tolls to drive from the Mediterranean to Paris (7 hours). I met many a Frenchman who wanted to move to the US.
But the vacations days are plentiful and they all take them at the same time so half the country is shut down in August.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 1:01 am to asurob1
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This post was edited on 12/23/14 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 11/10/14 at 7:58 am to asurob1
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What’s more, there are employees at the property and infrastructure company who are tasked with dreaming up ways to get workers out of the office
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