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Should maness drop out of senate race?

Posted on 11/1/14 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Silent-Blob
Member since Dec 2012
93 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 4:31 pm
Multiple polls have come out suggesting that Cassidy would win the senate race on nov. 4 and avoid a runoff if maness would drop out. Do you agree with his staying in election with very little chance to win?
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10683 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 4:33 pm to
Its one of those times where I support his right to run but wish he would abandon his campaign at the same time.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 4:33 pm to
Maness would probably win if Casdidy dropped out.
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 4:33 pm to
I think at this point, you let everything take its course. We will deal with Mary in the run-off and it won't be good for her. It's really not going to make a big difference. The office changes hands in January regardless of whether she is defeated in November or December.
This post was edited on 11/1/14 at 4:35 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Maness would probably win if Casdidy dropped out.




This.
Posted by Ghostfacedistiller
BR
Member since Jun 2008
17501 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 4:42 pm to
He should have dropped out before ballots are printed.

If he does now, he will be on ballot and any votes for him are simply wasted.

I'm going to be Ragin pisses if RM costs us the Senate
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

He should have dropped out before ballots are printed.

If he does now, he will be on ballot and any votes for him are simply wasted.




Several of us have pointed this out repeatedly on this board. If he officially does it now, it will only help Landrieu. All of those early voters who voted for Maness would have those votes thrown out by law, and of those still yet to vote, a certain number of Maness supporters either would not have gotten the message, or would still vote for him to show solidarity, not understanding that their votes too would be thrown out.

Most of the primary polls have shown Landrieu with a small lead in Nov. 4th balloting. As of today, the Real Clear Politics average of polls show Landrieu with 38%, Cassidy with 34% and Maness with 9% in the "primary".

Let's say that's how the voting actually goes down and Maness officially withdraws between now and Tuesday.

Maness' 9% is subtracted from the total number of votes and the remaining 91% is realigned to total 100%.

So landrieu's 38% actually becomes 42% and Cassidy's 34% becomes 37%. With most of the polls consistently showing about 20% undecided, that 20% becomes 22% with the Maness votes thrown out, meaning Landrieu would only need 41% + 1 vote of the undecideds to win outright. With the revised number of 42% already allocated to her among the decideds, getting 41% of the undecideds sounds very achievable.

If Maness had officially withdrawn before the first ballots were cast, and more particularly before they were printed, Cassidy would have had a very good chance of winning outright on Tuesday. But he didn't, so now the best possible outcome for Cassidy is that Maness officially stay in the race these last few days and go for the win on December 6th.

Qualifier to above: if Maness were to unofficially withdraw only, all votes for him would still count and a runoff would be a certainty.
This post was edited on 11/1/14 at 7:16 pm
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9865 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 5:22 pm to
I agree Ghost. Something doesn't smell right with Maness. No doubt Mary would lose if he wasn't in it.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17748 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 5:31 pm to
It is too late now, but something he should of done. While I feel that Cassidy will win in the run off, it just leaves too much to chance , anything can happen. Depending on how the other senate races come out, if the majority control depends on this run off race (which could be a real possibility because of the lack of other states having run offs) there is no telling how much money and effort the DNC will put into the runoff. And anything can happen
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27360 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 5:40 pm to
I hear Maness made a complete arse of himself on an afternoon talk show in Lafayette yesterday.
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
7646 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 5:48 pm to
Maness was a Landrieu plant to begin with
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15373 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

us the Senate


Who is us? The way I look at it one dem will be replacing another.

The majority you mean?
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15373 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 5:58 pm to
Why can't we grow some balls and support a conservative candidate. shite!!

"You're so concerned with squabbling for the scraps from Longshank's table that you've missed your God given right to something better."

OK that quote is a bit much but I'm so sick of career politicians!!!
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53561 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 6:09 pm to
I did see a Landrieu campaign staffer share a Rob Maness status on Facebook the other day.....
Posted by southernelite
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2009
53561 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

I hear Maness made a complete arse of himself on an afternoon talk show in Lafayette yesterday.


Do tell....details...
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

Should Maness drop out of senate race?


Absolutely fricking not.

Mary would win without a runoff if he did.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 8:07 pm to
I see tea party friends pushing Maness on FB and I want to tell them that they might as well be campaigning for Landrieu.

Pragmatism, people. Pragmatism.

Maness may be more politically aligned with the tea party types, but he has no chance to win. By supporting him, all they are doing is helping Landrieu.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

Maness would probably win if Casdidy dropped out.




What planet do you live on?
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

I see tea party friends pushing Maness on FB and I want to tell them that they might as well be campaigning for Landrieu.

Maness may be more politically aligned with the tea party types, but he has no chance to win. By supporting him, all they are doing is helping Landrieu.





Scoop, though a bit of a different situation, just wanted you to know that here in NH we're dealing with that same sort of sore-loser, "if-my-guy-can't-win-yours'-can't-either" mentality.

Scott Brown won the NH Republican Senate primary in September in a 10-man race with exactly 50% of the vote. Must be a registered Republican in NH to vote in the primary. In a Boston Herald poll two weeks ago, the following stunning revelation appeared:

- Among those voters who voted for one of the 9 Brown primary opponents, 48% said they will vote for Brown on Tuesday and 42% said they will vote for the ultra-liberal Obamabot Jeanne Shaheen. That makes absolutely no sense at all, because you can't find a more hardcore Democrat than Shaheen. 9% of that group said they are undecided. Even if Brown gets them all (not likely, obviously), the difference in winning or losing on Tuesday can be traced to those Republican primary voters who it seems would rather vote for someone they all despised before the primary voting than vote for the guy who defeated their guy, even though the two primary candidates Brown defeated, each who had 23% of the vote, both endorsed Brown within days of the primary.

Makes no sense at all.

quote:

Pragmatism, people. Pragmatism.



That's it right there. You nailed it. The Dems don't pull stupid crap like this, and that's one of the reasons they prosper. They don't eat their own.

"Brown got the primary he expected. In fact, there were nine other Republicans who decided to run against him! Yes, he won easily, getting 50 percent of the vote, while his Republican opponents split the rest.

Since that time, Brown has engaged Democratic Sen. Jeanne Shaheen in ads linking her to the unpopular president. The ads have had some impact, as Shaheen’s 49 percent-39 percent lead is now just 49 percent-46 percent.

The result: Shaheen has not grown, and Brown keeps picking up points. That’s the good news for the former Massachusetts senator.

The bad news is that some of his home base is bitter, and even today — with two weeks to go — they can’t bring themselves to vote for Brown with the kind of wide margins that he expects and needs to close out his race with his home base.

According to the Suffolk University/Boston Herald poll released yesterday, among self-identified Republican primary voters who voted for one of the other nine candidates, Brown led Shaheen 48 percent to 42 percent, with 9 percent undecided. That’s a Republican subcategory that has to break 85-10 for Brown. So it looks like Shaheen is stealing some of Brown’s home base"

LINK
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 11/1/14 at 9:14 pm to
People that are sanctimonious about voting their conscious irritate me.

A vote should be used strategically and be applied in a manner in which it will be most effective in achieving the most attainable positive outcome.

Any Conservative/Republican that votes for Maness Tuesday is ostensively voting for Landrieu.

I don't know why people can't figure this out.
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