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re: Almost 28 months later: TDKR vs The Avengers revisited

Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:21 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37532 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:21 pm to
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I'm getting a feeling that I'll like Ultron

It was really the second act that killed the first one for me, supposedly there's none of that in this one


But you said you might hate it?

In terms of this thread...

I also think the resounding positivity for Avengers is also due to a long list of either dark and brooding Batmans (both Nolan and Burton), the string of 90s and 2000s nu metal movies in Blade, Daredevil, Catwoman, etc, (even Hulk 1), and a general 90's comic-book influence on comic book films (X1 is ultra serious outside of the "dick" comment).

People like fun stuff. The MU has proven to be a place that:

1) Loves the fact that it comes from comic books
2) Spends time referencing that constantly, and in good ways
3) Tells simple stories with simple heroic motivations
4) And does it triumphantly, not taking itself too seriously

It's super easy to get drawn into that kind of atmosphere when everything else from the genre had come from the "hardcore" side of things, and then with Snyder, culminating in almost a rejection of its source material (the tone and presentation, not the story).

It's the tone. The fun. The lack of being dark and brooding, to be dark and brooding (something that Nolan was quite good at, and Snyder is not).

Superheroes are classically colorful, fun, campy. Burton caught campy part, but kept it dark...Schumacher is Burton's Snyder. The MU has done something a little different, and been very successful at it. They put 1960s comics with modern storylines on the screen. That makes it easy to "enjoy."

Does that make people a little too excited? Probably. But is that a bad thing?
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 8:29 pm
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36179 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:25 pm to
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Does that make people a little too excited? Probably. But is that a bad thing?



mostly just leads to annoyance from people who are not excited.

spending too much time debating movies does sometimes put a damper on the ability to just watch it and enjoy at whatever level you choose.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84958 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:30 pm to
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Tells simple stories with simple heroic motivations


read: surface level, shallow, boring.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35633 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 8:34 pm to
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It's the tone. The fun. The lack of being dark and brooding, to be dark and brooding (something that Nolan was quite good at, and Snyder is not).
Snyder failed to some to do Superman justice. His Batman so far looks miles better than Nolan's. The world in BvS is set up for Batman. Is that a good thing? If you like Batman more, yes. If you like Superman more, no. I just think it's unfair to judge his take on Batman yet, especially when everything looks great so far.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 8:37 pm
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