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re: Marvel Live Event: Cap 3, Thor 3, Black Panther, Avengers 3 Title
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:46 pm to RedPants
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:46 pm to RedPants
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No studio has ever had their collective shite together more than Marvel. The amount of planning and scripting to make this many titles work together over a course of 10+ years is absolutely amazing.
Yeah, they've got hits and misses, but they've clearly got their shite together and know exactly what they want from this massive undertaking. I have complete confidence in them to pull off this vision, since they themselves tend to understand this universe... unlike the people at DC.
The people at DC don't have a fricking clue what they're doing. Snyder and Goyer knew people didn't like Superman Returns, so they completely make that film the opposite of it. They succeeded in making it the opposite, but failed at making a Superman film and the opening chapter of the franchise, completely glossing over horrifying details.
And it seems as if they're doing more of the same with Batman vs Superman, and not thinking this through either, and seem to think that adapting The Dark Knight Returns at this point in the franchise simply because Batman fights Superman in it and it's Batman's most popular comic.
And now they're simply seeking a director for Wonder Woman who specifically has tits, and not necessarily the most qualified. Among the finalists right now is the woman who directed Twilight and Red Riding Hood. So in effort to not appear sexist, they're doing the most sexist thing possible and automatically disqualifying over half of the directors who would love to take on this project and may be more qualified to do it.
The lack of thought by DC is pretty astounding. Really what they should do if BvS blows, they should just start from scratch again, and then pay Bruce Timm like $30 million dollars to put together some long term 20 year plan together with a 5 paragraph summary on what each plot should be about, and then go from there. It's clear Marvel has known basically exactly where they were taking this from Day 1, even if there have been a few missteps, it's been clearly calculated and it's royally payed off. The people at DC are going through this blindly, abandoned joy for their franchise as a whole due to not understanding Nolan and trying to emulate him, and really don't know what the hell they're doing. I can't imagine Martian Manhunter or the Flash in this joyless universe.
And before BnG comes in claiming I'm a Marvel fanboy, I'm really only into X-Men in the Marvel universe. My big heroes have always been DC, which makes it all the more frustrating on how they're handling it.
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:47 pm to RonBurgundy
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Gosling is a tough call though, he seems like a guy who'd want out of his contract quickly.
Except he'd get to be a hero version of "Heath Ledger's Joker" and remembered forever.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:49 pm to Murray
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No Planet Hulk?? BOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Yeah, that's my one complaint with this great gameplan. I don't know why they wouldn't trust the Hulk to have his own film now after the Avengers. I think he was just about everyone's favorite part of it. Think pre and post Avengers Hulk is a different ball game.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:50 pm to OMLandshark
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It's clear Marvel has known basically exactly where they were taking this from Day 1, even if there have been a few missteps, it's been clearly calculated and it's royally payed off.
They originally weren't sure whether to make the Hulk a hero or the villain for the first Avengers. Only after the Avengers was so successful did they start taking even bigger risks.
The success of Guardians of the Galaxy told them that they had the green light to do whatever the hell they wanted with phase 3.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:53 pm to OMLandshark
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OMLandshark
Breathe. Not necessary to bring in DC. Let's enjoy the awesome news because honestly, I don't see a bad choice/announcement in here.
Not even missing out on a solo Hulk or Widow movie. As much as I want those, I think this slate of films is to specifically build to a Panther lead Avengers in A4 or post-A4, and that's an AWESOME thing.
Marvel has their shite together, let's end it there.
ETA: I'm not saying you're wrong though.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:02 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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It's clear Marvel has known basically exactly where they were taking this from Day 1, even if there have been a few missteps, it's been clearly calculated and it's royally payed off.
Not from Day 1. It's been a very gradual process. Favreau doesn't get enough credit for setting the tone for the Marvel movie universe. He set the ball rolling and they began to feel out what they could do, step by step. They pulled back on the Hulk franchise, stopped Ant-Man in midstream... it's been a learning process for them.
After the success of Iron Man they worked towards an Avengers movie. I doubt that they had 2020 planned at that point... they were working towards Avengers. That was huge so they started looking at how they could expand on that. Then Guardians was a successful experiment so now they're going forward with Ms. Marvel and Black Panther and the Inhumans.
It's not that they sat down in 2007 and said, "Here's how we get to Infinity Wars." They've set and achieved smaller goals and worked their way up from there.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:02 pm to Freauxzen
Pretty freaking pumped for all of these, but I'm upset at the guy who suggested Moon Knight earlier, because now I want that movie really badly.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:06 pm to OMLandshark
Since you brought it up, 
, yes, Marvel is doing a great job. DC doesn't have a chance to compete with the ensemble that Marvel has created.
There have been too many frick ups and different adaptations of Superman and Batman for them to be as successful creating something as original as the Avengers superheros. They fricked up The Hulk, yes, but that's it, and even the second Hulk could fit in with their universe.
DC just had an entire Batman trilogy and a horrible Green Lantern movie that will have absolutely nothing to do with the new universe. I think in the end they will not even come close to Marvel. Jon Favreau and Whedon have done a great job from the beginning giving us great symmetry in their movies.
, yes, Marvel is doing a great job. DC doesn't have a chance to compete with the ensemble that Marvel has created. There have been too many frick ups and different adaptations of Superman and Batman for them to be as successful creating something as original as the Avengers superheros. They fricked up The Hulk, yes, but that's it, and even the second Hulk could fit in with their universe.
DC just had an entire Batman trilogy and a horrible Green Lantern movie that will have absolutely nothing to do with the new universe. I think in the end they will not even come close to Marvel. Jon Favreau and Whedon have done a great job from the beginning giving us great symmetry in their movies.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:09 pm to Fewer Kilometers
As a DC fan this is all good news for me. I want to see good movies. I don't look at one franchise and grit my teeth because it's better or more successful than my personal favorite movie series.
I didn't sit in the theater watching Star Wars screaming, "Why the frick can't Planet of the Apes have this production value!" I just enjoyed watching star Wars.
I don't look at someone's hot wife and think, "shite, his wife has bigger tits than my wife does." I just enjoy staring at his wife's tits.
I'm getting thirty superhero movies in the next six years. Some will be great and some will suck. I'd rather spend my time enjoying the twentyfive that are awesome instead of complaining about the five that aren't.
I didn't sit in the theater watching Star Wars screaming, "Why the frick can't Planet of the Apes have this production value!" I just enjoyed watching star Wars.
I don't look at someone's hot wife and think, "shite, his wife has bigger tits than my wife does." I just enjoy staring at his wife's tits.
I'm getting thirty superhero movies in the next six years. Some will be great and some will suck. I'd rather spend my time enjoying the twentyfive that are awesome instead of complaining about the five that aren't.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:13 pm to Fewer Kilometers
quote:I'm the same way. I like the DC superheros better because that's just what I grew up with, but I enjoy the Marvel movies. I'm excited for more. I'm excited as a comic fan that all of these movies are being thrown at us, honestly.
As a DC fan this is all good news for me. I want to see good movies. I don't look at one franchise and grit my teeth because it's better or more successful than my personal favorite movie series.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:14 pm to Freauxzen
why is everyone assuming whedon won't be back to finish the avengers series?
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:23 pm to BilJ
hes mentioned how grueling of a process its becoming for him. it sounds like he needs to step away for a film and just breathe.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:53 pm to BlacknGold
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"In the Marvel Cinematic Universe version of the supernatural, that involves everything from quantum mechanics to string theory. The idea of this film is to open up a whole new corner of the cinematic universe. We want to enter, through Strange, the world of parallel dimensions."
Does this sound like they're going to stick with the science route rather than magic?
If they do this, hopefully they skip surtur for ragnarok as well. Who else could they use to destroy asgard and kill thor, if they go with that story line?
I'd much rather see the clone than the event. I've mentioned before how I've never cared for mystical/magical characters or themes. Doctor Strange, Ghost Rider, etc. have never been high on my list.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 10/28/14 at 7:08 pm to stuckintexas
While the magic part of Marvel isn't my favorite, all corners of the MU opened by the MCU lead to bigger events.
That being said, Ghost Rider is character that can remain in the background permanently,imo. Daimon Hellstrom,Brother Voodoo, Black Knight and Captain Britain on the other hand are characters I can dig
That being said, Ghost Rider is character that can remain in the background permanently,imo. Daimon Hellstrom,Brother Voodoo, Black Knight and Captain Britain on the other hand are characters I can dig
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 10/28/14 at 7:59 pm to RonBurgundy
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Captain Britain
I knew there was a connection with merlin but never really gave much thought to that. I really only read him in the few issues of Excalibur I had. I loved Claremont as a writer but I gotta say Captain Britain was probably one of his weaker creations. That's just my opinion tho. I remember thinking if I want to read x-men then I would just read my x-men books. So I only bought a handful of Excalibur and don't even really remember Captain Britain having the Cyclops-type role. What was his appeal?
Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:14 pm to RonBurgundy
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Black Knight
Would be a ton of fun. He served in the West Coast Avengers for a bit...
Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:39 pm to Freauxzen
Found this:
Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:59 pm to Freauxzen
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:06 pm to Freauxzen
Hahaha! That's great man! How do I save that gif to my phone or where can I get it!
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:08 pm to Freauxzen
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