- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Judge strikes down Arizona's ban on gay marriage
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:19 pm to GumboPot
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:19 pm to GumboPot
quote:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:20 pm to Me4Heisman
quote:If I'm interpreting the Amendment completely literally? Yes.
Are city gun bans unconstitutional in your opinion?
But I'd also need to allow citizens to have nuclear weapons.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:22 pm to FT
quote:
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
The drafters and ratifiers of that amendment meant for it to apply to gay marriage?
I'll change my mind if you can find ONE mention of that topic in the Congressional Record, or in any of the records of the state ratification committees.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:24 pm to Green Chili Tiger
GCT...
You mean all 19 of those states, and DC affirmatively voted in favor of gay marriage?
OR
Was gay marriage imposed upon them by one person in a black robe sitting in a federal courthouse?
You mean all 19 of those states, and DC affirmatively voted in favor of gay marriage?
OR
Was gay marriage imposed upon them by one person in a black robe sitting in a federal courthouse?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:25 pm to FT
quote:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
Okay, I can see that. Because AZ made a law abridging the privileges...
But what about the states that don't make a law but simply define marriage between a man and a woman?
Is that different?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:25 pm to udtiger
quote:No, dumb arse. They meant for it to apply to the citizens of the United States of America.
The drafters and ratifiers of that amendment meant for it to apply to gay marriage?
quote:What does that have to do with anything?
I'll change my mind if you can find ONE mention of that topic in the Congressional Record, or in any of the records of the state ratification committees.
By that standard, Congress would have to address an infinite number of topics each time a bill was passed or an amendment was voted on.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:28 pm to FT
quote:
If I'm interpreting the Amendment completely literally? Yes.
If you want to be intellectually and logically consistent the answer should be no. However judges invented the incorporation doctrine to rationalize the answer yes.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:28 pm to GumboPot
quote:
But what about the states that don't make a law but simply define marriage between a man and a woman?
Is that different?
quote:I would think that would fall under this. The law protects the right to marry, period. Adding qualifiers or introducing definitions doesn't really help.
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:29 pm to GumboPot
quote:So you're saying city gun bans are constitutional?
If you want to be intellectually and logically consistent the answer should be no. However judges invented the incorporation doctrine to rationalize the answer yes.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:30 pm to asurob1
quote:
Tyranny of the majority is at an end in the nation.
Remember that line when the wind changes it course.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:31 pm to CountryVolFan
quote:I don't think you just said what you think you just said.
Remember that line when the wind changes it course.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:31 pm to FT
quote:What law does that? What right is it to marry? If someone doesn't find someone who will marry him, is he being deprived of his rights?
The law protects the right to marry, period.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:32 pm to TT9
quote:
People for SODOMY do.
Fixed it for you.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:32 pm to LSURussian
quote:Don't be stupid.
What law does that? What right is it to marry? If someone doesn't find someone who will marry him, is he being deprived of his rights?
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:33 pm to FT
quote:
o you're saying city gun bans are constitutional?
Yes. I'm pretty sure the Bill of Rights starts out as "Congress shall make no law". The city is not congress nor is a state.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:33 pm to FT
quote:Assume I'm stupid. Please answer my questions.
What law does that? What right is it to marry? If someone doesn't find someone who will marry him, is he being deprived of his rights?
Don't be stupid.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:35 pm to GumboPot
quote:The First Amendment starts that way. Not the entire Bill of Rights. The Second Amendment only says:
Yes. I'm pretty sure the Bill of Rights starts out as "Congress shall make no law". The city is not congress nor is a state.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
There is no qualifier; it simply says that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
1.3 million Arizonians who voted for proposition 102 were just given the middle finger by one person.
The SCOTUS gave the entire U.S. Congress the middle finger when it struck down the Voting Rights Act renewal, which was passed with 100% support in the Senate and 95% support in the House, and was signed by W at a lavish Rose Garden ceremony with both Republican and Democratic leaders standing next to him.
Posted on 10/17/14 at 2:40 pm to LSURussian
quote:PART VII. COVENANT MARRIAGE
Assume I'm stupid. Please answer my questions.
§272. Covenant marriage; intent; conditions to create
A. A covenant marriage is a marriage entered into by one male and one female who understand and agree that the marriage between them is a lifelong relationship. Parties to a covenant marriage have received counseling emphasizing the nature and purposes of marriage and the responsibilities thereto. Only when there has been a complete and total breach of the marital covenant commitment may the non-breaching party seek a declaration that the marriage is no longer legally recognized.
B. A man and woman may contract a covenant marriage by declaring their intent to do so on their application for a marriage license, as provided in R.S. 9:224(C), and executing a declaration of intent to contract a covenant marriage, as provided in R.S. 9:273. The application for a marriage license and the declaration of intent shall be filed with the official who issues the marriage license.
C. A covenant marriage terminates only for one of the causes enumerated in Civil Code Article 101. A covenant marriage may be terminated by divorce only upon one of the exclusive grounds enumerated in R.S. 9:307. A covenant marriage agreement may not be dissolved, rescinded, or otherwise terminated by the mutual consent of the spouses.
Acts 1997, No. 1380, §3; Acts 2006, No. 249, §1
We done here?
ETA:
Art. 3520. Marriage
A. A marriage that is valid in the state where contracted, or in the state where the parties were first domiciled as husband and wife, shall be treated as a valid marriage unless to do so would violate a strong public policy of the state whose law is applicable to the particular issue under Article 3519.
B. A purported marriage between persons of the same sex violates a strong public policy of the state of Louisiana and such a marriage contracted in another state shall not be recognized in this state for any purpose, including the assertion of any right or claim as a result of the purported marriage.
Acts 1991, No. 923, §1, eff. Jan. 1, 1992; Acts 1999, No. 890, §1.
This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 2:43 pm
Popular
Back to top
![logo](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/images/layout/TDIcon.jpg)