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re: Led Zeppelin vs. Pink Floyd
Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:45 pm to Burt Reynolds
Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:45 pm to Burt Reynolds
Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:46 pm to Burt Reynolds
I'd say the first real "psychedelic" song is Norwegian Wood by the Beatles, but thats just my opinion
Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:46 pm to danman6336
I'd agree that Rubber Soul as a whole has a psychedelic tinge to it.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:48 pm to HeadyBrosevelt
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I'd agree that Rubber Soul as a whole has a psychedelic tinge to it.
agreed.
JMHO, Arnold Layne is more psychedlic than anything done up to that point IMO FWIW
Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:52 pm to Burt Reynolds
Just reading a little bit about, the Beatles were doing tape feedback and having sitars and talking about drugs (Day Tripper) in their songs as early as '65
That's when most other bands that become "psychedelic" (Byrds, Beach Boys, etc) were still covering blues songs or writing silly pop songs and the Dead were still called the Warlocks and the acid tests had just started to be a thing
If thats Dylans influence on the Beatles I dunno probably, but they were definitely the first to do it
That's when most other bands that become "psychedelic" (Byrds, Beach Boys, etc) were still covering blues songs or writing silly pop songs and the Dead were still called the Warlocks and the acid tests had just started to be a thing
If thats Dylans influence on the Beatles I dunno probably, but they were definitely the first to do it
Posted on 10/13/14 at 6:54 pm to Burt Reynolds
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JMHO, Arnold Layne is more psychedlic than anything done up to that point IMO FWIW
I think you are really underestimating Tommorrow Never Knows. It was the first to really utilize sampling and created a truly psychedelic atmosphere by incorporating bizarre distorted guitar loops and manipulated vocals. Nothing had been done like that before.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 7:00 pm to danman6336
See i just dont consider the byrds or beach boys psychdelic. If you wanna be technical like that, bob dylan invented if not, it was the beatles and pink floyd.
If a sitar makes something psychedelic, then ravi shankar and his predecessors are the fathers of psychedlic music by a longshot
If a sitar makes something psychedelic, then ravi shankar and his predecessors are the fathers of psychedlic music by a longshot
Posted on 10/13/14 at 7:02 pm to Burt Reynolds
quote:I think think's a fair thing to say
If a sitar makes something psychedelic, then ravi shankar and his predecessors are the fathers of psychedlic music by a longshot
The Beat generation was into Eastern music like that, and they were the precursors to "psychedelic rock" in the mid 60's
Posted on 10/13/14 at 7:11 pm to RazorTiger30
Floyd is more original,, LZ rocks harder, there is no "better" though.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 7:31 pm to RazorTiger30
Led Zeppelin but barely.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 7:57 pm to danman6336
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Posted by danman6336 quote: If a sitar makes something psychedelic, then ravi shankar and his predecessors are the fathers of psychedlic music by a longshot I think think's a fair thing to say The Beat generation was into Eastern music like that, and they were the precursors to "psychedelic rock" in the mid 60's
We need to make a "sitar inspired music" thread. Triumviraye sponsored of course
To everyone that came in and put forth effort good job - the winner of this threas is pink floyd, the inventors of psychedelic rock.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:26 pm to Burt Reynolds
Floyd is much better than LZ
Posted on 10/13/14 at 8:38 pm to MrFreakinMiyagi
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However such different music styles both are great, however none greater than Zeppelin for me.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 10:56 pm to RazorTiger30
tough call. if i ranked all their albums together, pink floyd would hold the top spots, but they'd also hold the bottom spots. zeppelin was definitely more consistent overall, but to me, PF's 'animals' is just on another level....
as an aside, since people are talking about psychedelic music: i remember riding home with a friend after a concert a few years ago...while i was still buzzing, he put on some music that i could've sworn was some 'piper'-era unreleased syd barrett tracks. turned out it was alice cooper's debut album 'pretties for you'...if he didn't tell me who it was, i wouldn't have guessed it in a million years. don't know why i'm mentioning this, but this thread reminded me of it for some reason
as an aside, since people are talking about psychedelic music: i remember riding home with a friend after a concert a few years ago...while i was still buzzing, he put on some music that i could've sworn was some 'piper'-era unreleased syd barrett tracks. turned out it was alice cooper's debut album 'pretties for you'...if he didn't tell me who it was, i wouldn't have guessed it in a million years. don't know why i'm mentioning this, but this thread reminded me of it for some reason
Posted on 10/14/14 at 6:06 am to vandelay industries
I would tend to go with Zeppelin but then I listen to this LINK and I go back to Floyd.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:04 am to Burt Reynolds
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Zeppelin is definitely more talented but i like pink floyds sound more
I disagree. If you're basing talent purely on musicianship then I can understand that, but when it comes to creating dramatic sounds and songwriting it's Floyd in a landslide. Talent is also in the vision of the overall project (Jimmy Page was a genius at this too, so far ahead of his time) and the vision that Floyd had and still has is pretty magnificent.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:21 am to dnm3305
Zeppelin would win in a walk if it weren't for the existence of Robert Plant and his histrionic vocals that make me want to build a time machine and strangle him in his infancy.
Floyd is very hit and miss for me, and that middle period after Piper and before Dark Side is pretty bad (I know true Floyd fans love those albums, but Ummagumma is tedious as hell). The Wall could probably stand to be a single record instead of a double, cutting out the filler. and Shine on Your Crazy Diamond doesn't need to be nine parts and 20 minutes. If they were a writer, I'd say they need an editor. But really, it's a band that famously hated one another, and their inability to work well together causes a lot of sprawl and bloat on their albums (have to pin this on Waters, who seems to be one of the more difficult people in music).
Zep wins because their rhythm section is unimpeachably awesome. JPJ and Bonzo are the bedrock of the band, and any band would kill for that duo. From that era, maybe only Yes has as great of a rhythm section.
Floyd is very hit and miss for me, and that middle period after Piper and before Dark Side is pretty bad (I know true Floyd fans love those albums, but Ummagumma is tedious as hell). The Wall could probably stand to be a single record instead of a double, cutting out the filler. and Shine on Your Crazy Diamond doesn't need to be nine parts and 20 minutes. If they were a writer, I'd say they need an editor. But really, it's a band that famously hated one another, and their inability to work well together causes a lot of sprawl and bloat on their albums (have to pin this on Waters, who seems to be one of the more difficult people in music).
Zep wins because their rhythm section is unimpeachably awesome. JPJ and Bonzo are the bedrock of the band, and any band would kill for that duo. From that era, maybe only Yes has as great of a rhythm section.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:44 am to Baloo
between the two bands, I like floyd more. but that's probably because of the bad taste in my mouth i have from LZ "lifting" so many songs from older blues artists and not wanting to give them any credit on the records/royalties.
Posted on 10/14/14 at 10:14 am to Baloo
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Shine on Your Crazy Diamond doesn't need to be nine parts and 20 minutes
Shut your whore mouth. And the live side to Ummagumma is fantastic.
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