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re: Grand jury refuses to indict over botched SWAT raid that disfigured toddler

Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:00 pm to
I've never had anything above a minor run in with the law.

The issue at play here is the necessity of a potentially violent, no-knock warrant, boner. These used to be rare, and only used in the event of it being the last resort after an actual investigation into the property.

Don't you think it is a good idea for the state to have some sort of clue who or what is inside the house that they are going to enter under the cover of night?
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted by VanCleef
Member since Aug 2014
704 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:02 pm to
Thanks for paying taxes, a required duty with a penalty of prison.
At least you had a like minded president, in terms of service, who gave you 2 tax cuts during wartime and only asked of you to shop more.

I hope you can sleep at night from all of that shopping.
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72419 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

The issue at play here is the necessity of a potentially violent, no-knock warrant, boner. These used to be rare, and only used in the event of it being the last resort after an actual investigation into the property.
Rare until they started getting their military toys.

Cops will tell you that violence against them is increasing (which isn't the case) and they need these to protect themselves which is bullshite.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72419 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:04 pm to
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At least you had a like minded president, in terms of service, who gave you 2 tax cuts during wartime and only asked of you to shop more.
If it makes you feel any better, I didn't vote for the last two presidents, so as far as I'm concerned, your military service is on you.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
10066 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:05 pm to
Every single study that has been done has found violent crime to be rapidly declining for over thirty years.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Don't you think it is a good idea for the state to have some sort of clue who or what is inside the house that they are going to enter under the cover of night?



If I remember correctly, weren't there toys visible in the front yard? You don't have to exactly be a MENSA member to think their just might be children inside before you start throwing a fricking flash bang grenade.

frick those morons.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35574 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:06 pm to
Sure. I'm sure nothing ever changes during the course of investigation and people are stagnant, staying where they are during the investigation, or never entering an area that has been previously investigated.


You know how all this could have been avoided? The suspect could have not been a meth dealer
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72419 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Every single study that has been done has found violent crime to be rapidly declining for over thirty years.
Put together a thread on the Poliboard on that very topic.

We are at the lowest level of violent crime since the 60s and 70s, but if you asked cops and their supporters, this world has just gone to crap and everyone is a criminal.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10066 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Thanks for paying taxes, a required duty with a penalty of prison. At least you had a like minded president, in terms of service, who gave you 2 tax cuts during wartime and only asked of you to shop more. I hope you can sleep at night from all of that shopping.

You want a medal for joining the military? You didn't have to.

Decisions have consequences, and being deployed in war was the consequence of your decision. I'm sorry you think others should respect you for taking a job.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:08 pm to
So the "militarization of police" which has been going on since the early 90's has had a positive effect in reducing violent crime. Good to hear.
Posted by VanCleef
Member since Aug 2014
704 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:09 pm to
did you get ptsd from shopping?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72419 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

So the "militarization of police" which has been going on since the early 90's has had a positive effect in reducing violent crime. Good to hear.
Well, considering that it was last this low in the 60s before the militarization, I contend that isn't the case.
Posted by VanCleef
Member since Aug 2014
704 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:10 pm to
Im a lowlife ged turd. i don't know any better.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35574 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:10 pm to
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Well, considering that it was last this low in the 60s before the militarization, I contend that isn't the case.



Because society wasn't different then
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72419 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:10 pm to
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Message Posted by VanCleef did you get ptsd from shopping?


Did you join the military under the assumption that you wouldn't have to fight in wars?

Have you followed our country's military history at all?
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted by VanCleef
Member since Aug 2014
704 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:12 pm to
Thank you for your disdain for people who allow you to live in a prosperous, peaceful and free country.

may i ask what you do for a living?
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 12:15 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72419 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:12 pm to
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Because society wasn't different then
The rise of drugs, societal upheaval, black liberation movements, etc.

Yea, it was remarkably more turbulent.
Posted by VanCleef
Member since Aug 2014
704 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:13 pm to
better than you.
i was joking about the shopping.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35574 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:14 pm to
More turbulent would mean more crime, no?
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10066 posts
Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:14 pm to
Tell me how society was so different then that the US constitution should be promptly discarded in favor of police blowing doors open with little investigation, violating age old doctrines?

You two servile fricks probably blow-hard about the second amendment any chance you get.
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