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Self-Loathing & The Psychology of South Louisiana
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:55 am
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:55 am
Self-loathing is part of the South Louisiana character . If you grew up in South Louisiana you know what I'm talking about instinctively. It has to do with French culture and Louisiana history. It has to do with being pushed-around , having Little Man's Disease. It's why half of every neighborhood in South Louisiana lives to troll the other half. It's why being a contrarian is so highly valued in South Louisiana culture.
When I was a kid it was people from say, Pointe Coupee Parish randomly pulling for Notre Dame and running down LSU, to the same thing now. I met a women this week that grew up in Baton Rouge, has ZERO connection to the University Of Alabama, and has two Bama flags in her yard, and sports a big Bama bumper sticker on her SUV. She knows less about college football or Alabama then you know about origami.She identifies with the flavor of the day to deny her neighbors in some way...and that is epidemic in South Louisiana. It's the psychology here. And right now it's time to get out the long knives . As a semi- outsider-someone from here, but not of here, I see it clearly.
I'm NOT telling anyone how to feel about Les Miles and LSU, I'm just dreading the whole soap opera that is about to unfold. The cannibalism part where everybody pulls out the long knives. All the malice everybody has for everybody else, and the way it's done for sport here, just wears my arse out.
When I was a kid it was people from say, Pointe Coupee Parish randomly pulling for Notre Dame and running down LSU, to the same thing now. I met a women this week that grew up in Baton Rouge, has ZERO connection to the University Of Alabama, and has two Bama flags in her yard, and sports a big Bama bumper sticker on her SUV. She knows less about college football or Alabama then you know about origami.She identifies with the flavor of the day to deny her neighbors in some way...and that is epidemic in South Louisiana. It's the psychology here. And right now it's time to get out the long knives . As a semi- outsider-someone from here, but not of here, I see it clearly.
I'm NOT telling anyone how to feel about Les Miles and LSU, I'm just dreading the whole soap opera that is about to unfold. The cannibalism part where everybody pulls out the long knives. All the malice everybody has for everybody else, and the way it's done for sport here, just wears my arse out.
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Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:56 am to Lsupimp
Do we drink too much?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:56 am to Lsupimp
You are full of it.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:56 am to Lsupimp
i agree with most of your post.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:57 am to Lsupimp
This feels like an OT shrink thread.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:57 am to Lsupimp
When things are bad, people are more belligerent. Fact.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:58 am to Lsupimp
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If you grew up in South Louisiana you know what I'm talking about instinctively
Yep
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:58 am to Lsupimp
Wut?
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:58 am to Lsupimp
Sounds like you are the self loathing one
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:59 am to Lsupimp
As a non-native who attended LSU, I think you have it spot-on. Remember the "catastrophe syndrome" that Saban referred to? Bingo.
And like you indirectly stated, I've always thought it came from the French side of Louisiana as well. Alabama is not dissimilar to Louisiana at all but for that one aspect; yet, as far as I can tell you don't see this kind of thing coming from there.
Your quote
says it all like I never could have in a million years.
And like you indirectly stated, I've always thought it came from the French side of Louisiana as well. Alabama is not dissimilar to Louisiana at all but for that one aspect; yet, as far as I can tell you don't see this kind of thing coming from there.
Your quote
quote:
to deny her neighbors in some way
says it all like I never could have in a million years.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:59 am to Lsupimp
duplicate - delete
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:59 am to Lsupimp
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has ZERO connection to the University Of Alabama, and has two Bama flags in her yard, and sports a big Bama bumper sticker on her SUV. She knows less about college football or Alabama then you know about origami.
describes 50% of all bama fans
Posted on 10/5/14 at 11:59 am to Lsupimp
100% truth. It's why when walk ons is up for sports bar of the year, the ability for some to say "I'm not a huge fan, but shite let's get this for Louisiana!" is not there, and instead people get so upset at the thought of it.
Eta: It's also why Louisiana people can't stand so many groups who have deep pride for themselves, like other fans, people from Texas, etc. Just a general negative attitude.
Eta: It's also why Louisiana people can't stand so many groups who have deep pride for themselves, like other fans, people from Texas, etc. Just a general negative attitude.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:10 pm to Lsupimp
You are absolutely 100% correct. This place is full to the brim of people who will go the other way no matter the circumstance. It's full of self loathing catastrophe syndrome people. I know plenty of people who don't watch a single minute of college football or care about sports in general who hate LSU and root when they lose. Only because they want to see their neighbors upset. Like it's some sort of pride.
Plenty of people get a absolute kick out of the trials of the people around them here.
Plenty of people get a absolute kick out of the trials of the people around them here.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:13 pm to Lsupimp
Everybody is eventually going to get what they want and they're not going to like it.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:14 pm to Lsupimp
Damn well spot on, Sir! Excellent post.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:22 pm to Lsupimp
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French culture
Very much so (at least Cajun-French). This explains our politics, family relationships, and our attitude about our state.
That's a whole lot of Catholic-French inertia in play. I'm in a position to recognize this...you'd agree if you knew my mother and family (from Avoyelles and Pointe Coupee).
As far as state pride and football, I think it's a combination of culture and decades of embarrassingly little to take pride in other than food and music....but the Catholic guilt thing and cajun culture keeps so many of them closer to where they grew up and keeps the ties to the family (for better or worse) very strong and often conflicted.
IMO, Louisiana (especially south Louisiana) is doing far better today than it ever has economically. Oil and gas, tourism, medicine, and even technology jobs are available for those that want them. Our cities have improved, our football has improved, and our opportunities have improved but people still don't take pride in what they have in front of them. That's nothing but the residual effects of the past.
It will take another generation for the love/hate relationship with Louisiana to change.
This post was edited on 10/5/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:23 pm to Lsupimp
As an outsider who lived in BR only for college, what you said is something I recognised in my time there, and in my relatives who are from SE La. It truly is a trait unique to south Louisiana
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:23 pm to Lsupimp
I mean, you're exactly right.
Posted on 10/5/14 at 12:24 pm to Lsupimp
I've always noticed it too and yes, the French are the biggest player haters in the world. They don't seem to want anyone they know to succeed at anything. The hatred for LSU is a perfect example.
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